The op has possibly missed out on thousands of pounds of money by not getting proffesional mcs accredited installers in, as by diy it he won't get the rhi tarriffs, fool fool fool
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kev, sorry mate but your so wrapped u in the mcs/rhi way that your blinded by some of the info/facts from previous efforts.
rhi is postponed already from its launch date,figures are still not agreeded,mccs installers would have charged the earth. what hes saved in install will probably over a 10 year period be more than the payback from the inscentive...if the unit lasts 10 years.
you probably dont remember the old grants,i do and they didnt ever pay out.....what makes you beleive that when launched the new scheme will be better than the previous failed attempts of clearskies,mcs etc.
rhi is postponed already from its launch date,figures are still not agreeded,mccs installers would have charged the earth. what hes saved in install will probably over a 10 year period be more than the payback from the inscentive...if the unit lasts 10 years.
you probably dont remember the old grants,i do and they didnt ever pay out.....what makes you beleive that when launched the new scheme will be better than the previous failed attempts of clearskies,mcs etc.
The heat bank cylinder should be viewed just like an extra radiator that once it is up to temperature requires very little additional heat in order to keep it topped up (being well insulated).
The beauty of it then is it just sits there, out of sight and out of mind, until it is called upon; then when it is the HB is fully heated up and ready to go.
We have also been using the HBC for quite a number of years in conjunction with our air source systems.
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The beauty of it then is it just sits there, out of sight and out of mind, until it is called upon; then when it is the HB is fully heated up and ready to go.
We have also been using the HBC for quite a number of years in conjunction with our air source systems.
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I still do not follow how the contents of a thermal store, say 1 cubic metre of hot water, could have much effect on 20 cubic metres or more of frozen earth.
I looked at your previous posts to see whether they provided any sign of your expertise in this area of advanced technology.
I think not. Keep up the stocks of fan heaters.
My arsse.
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The cutting edge of bulls**t more like, I think servotit uses the the warm water from the heat bank on his ashp's to hose them down when the coils freeze. I can guarantee he's never installed a gshp
how about this for a idea then! put something like a small air source heat pump in the loft area this would take all the wasted heat that would be going though the roof using the hot feed out to feed the ground source heat pump with any remainder heat going the ground collector, my theory is the larger the ground collector the warmer the ground will stay, the warmer the ground the less the ground source pump will have to work! the lass it has to work then the less you have to pay for energy
most heat pump manufacturers recommend a maximum yearly ground source heat pump run time of 800 hrs max and thats not a lot when you get down to figures and most talk is that the first year the pump runs at 100% the second at about 75% and the third its crap, its for this very reason that i'm trying to recharge the ground as much as i an in the summer months!
Got to be a wind up I reckon Mike and servotit are the same person thy're both raving loons 
Got to be a wind up I reckon Mike and servotit are the same person thy're both raving loons
no sorry your wrong wrong wrong? he a loony im a raving loony? but im the good looking one!
is there anybody who's talking on heat pumps here got one working!
Heat pumps CAN be worthwhile, usually only when nat gas is not available.
They CAN give a worthwhile heat output.
But most systems fail just when they are most needed when its -6°C outside and been like that for the last week!
The heat input source needs to be very conservatively rated to work properly.
The Antartic research station does not use them!
I suppose if you live near the coast then using the sea as the heat source is a god idea as that does not freeze until it gets to about -12°C and there is plenty of m³ of water which moves around the heat input element unlike ground based systems.
Tony
They CAN give a worthwhile heat output.
But most systems fail just when they are most needed when its -6°C outside and been like that for the last week!
The heat input source needs to be very conservatively rated to work properly.
The Antartic research station does not use them!
I suppose if you live near the coast then using the sea as the heat source is a god idea as that does not freeze until it gets to about -12°C and there is plenty of m³ of water which moves around the heat input element unlike ground based systems.
Tony
i agree 100% measuring on google the front garden was 11 x13 meters block paved with the side of a neighbors house ajoining, the heave of the frozen ground was at least 300mm in places making it a very lumpy drive.
the water board told them in no uncertain terms that it had to be disconected immediatly? i saw what was left 6 months after and the drive had still not recovered but ice can take a long time to thor, i could not find out what they had installed in the way of slinky or bore hole, but if i hadnt seen it i dont think id of beleave it? and that what is making me a bit jittery the damage it had caused?
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