Neutrality out of the window then.
How government 'counted single gloves rather than pairs to boast of one billion items of PPE for NHS
- Thread starter SirGalahad
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Neutrality out of the window then.
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In a way yes. It is difficult to be neutral when you are right - as is well demonstrated on here.
There are complaints that the BBC, in its attempts to maintain impartiality, purposely includes anyone they can find who opposes a particular view, i.e. any old nutter who will say what is needed, however cranky.
There are complaints that the BBC, in its attempts to maintain impartiality, purposely includes anyone they can find who opposes a particular view, i.e. any old nutter who will say what is needed, however cranky.
How would - or why would - they or anyone remain neutral on a programme about flat-earthers?
How about having 3 flat earthers, and 3 people who think the world is round, putting across all sides of the argument, and then letting people decide for themselves, or would you be worried that a consensus would follow that decides the earth is flat.
Panorama contacted a known communist, union leader and Momentum figure and asked for names of staff to interview, he provided names of labour activists almost all of whom have appeared at labour/momentum rallies and make no secret of their hatred for the Tories.
This isn't about PPE is it, it's about providing a platform for hard left nutters.
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Why? There is no argument.
They may very well do that - but they would be wrong.
I know that doesn't seem to matter nowadays but really - it does.
Did those people tell the truth?
You are calling them hard left nutters because you disagree with them.
Are there programmes with which you agree, that others could say do that for hard right nutters?
It gives false balance. Flat earthism is fairly harmless, they just can't travel too far as they fall off the edge of the world.
Other examples like anti vaxxers, climate change deniers, tobacco-is-really-safe, homeopaths and probably a whole long list of other silly positions can result in people dying.
Pretending that both viewpoints are equally worthwhile can effectively promote ahe lunatic fringe to being equally valid in the eyes of the viewer.
Perhaps we should liken this programme with the recent one about antisemitism[sic] in the Labour party.
It contained a lot of Jewish people. Well, it would wouldn't it?
It contained a lot of Jewish people. Well, it would wouldn't it?
was what they said true or not?
if true, then they are doing the country a service by exposing that.
It sadly happens too often these days.
there are often TV interviews with a scientist on on side and say a climate change denier on the other side of the argument -what is frustrating is whilst there is no factual equivalence, the are given equal status.
It happened all the time with brexit discussions.
it depends on whether it was the truth or not.
I dont hear you complaining of Tory ministers talking about '1 billion pieces of PPE', or changing from 'testing' to 'capacity for testing' -it is exactly the same thing, in fact worse.
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durhamplumber
But you believe the govt when they give you the figures for illegal immigrants entering the country?
So, are you saying that it's impossible to interview a health worker who is not a hard left Labour activist?
The ONS is pretty good in most things they do so I'd give them the benefit of the doubt.
I haven't looked into how they come up with their numbers but if you are interested this might be of use.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...ringillegalmigrationourcurrentview/2019-06-21
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durhamplumber
Ok then,,let’s call it half a billion pairs if it lessens your blood pressure,ffs.
Obviously not impossible.
I did not see the programme (I keep saying Panorama is rubbish nowadays).
Just because you keep calling them hard left Labour activists doesn't mean they are wrong and defeats your argument. Do you want to defend the Government even if it is wrong?
Either the point of the programme was correct or it was not. I don't know.
It's as if you want a programme about Stalin having to include an equal number of contributions from those who think killing 20,000,000 people is alright or don't care or have no knowledge of it.
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