I might put in a multi fuel stove.

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Hi all,

I have an existing back boiler open fire in our living room. I was going to remove all and replace it with a multi fuel stove.
I have a timber frame house and am wondering what is the best fire boarding to use?
Also, what is the best way to finish off in around the two sides and the back of the opening for the stove?
The stove won't have a back boiler, I don't need it to heat the water.
I have the oil heating for everything else.

I do know I have to leave the correct opening distance around the stove BTW.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Hi, I will do the work involved myself, I'm a retired joiner and I'll get the stove install with the supplier, he is an HEATAS installer.

He is going to keep me right with the preparation.

Thanks.
 
Hi all,

...what is the best way to finish off in around the two sides and the back of the opening for the stove?
I'm courius to know your opinion, is it fire resistance or heat resistance board thats needed for the sides and back of the opening for the stove?

Thanks.
 
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I'm courius to know your opinion, is it fire resistance or heat resistance board thats needed for the sides and back of the opening for the stove?

Thanks.
Primarily heat resistance. It's got to be able to withstand 1000°C for 30 minutes
 
Primarily heat resistance. It's got to be able to withstand 1000°C for 30 minutes

Thank you, good to know.

Would fire resistant board be the wrong choice then? Its just I know a person that took the job of installing his own stove and I think he is going to use fire resistance boards.

Thank you for your advice.
 
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And the chances of these type of fires being banned soon is pretty high at the moment because of the ficticious climate change scaremongering.
 
I thought your installer was going to keep you right. Not that I know the answer.
Yes, your right, he will, just thought I'd ask the experts here as well. I just had the plumber in a few days ago to disconect the pipes from the back boiler. Its over to me now, when i get the time.

Thanks.
 
I have a timber frame house and the back boiler had these precast concrete slabs wrapped around it.

I'm wonder is this 600mm opening wide enough for a wood burner?
The smallest stove I see is 499 mm wide but I'd want to tile or put something on the inside
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of the opening.
I see a tile affect that is stuck on the inside of the opening and that is about 20mm thick.

Your thoughts please.

Thanks.
 
Wood burner covers a massive list of fires, these are all designed to have a very cool flue Hughes Condensing Stove 2 small.jpgrocket-mass-heater-diagram.pngwallnoefer.PNGthe first two are condensing, and the latter also burns super efficiently, but other than the rocket centre which is a DIY type the other two need electric to run, and my question which was not answered was what happens with a power cut?

I know my mothers house with the old aga stove had a quarry tiled floor so one could rake out the fire safely and carry the burning coals outside with nothing likely to catch fire.

My dad looked after multi fuel boilers, it could run on blast furnace gas, town gas, oil, or solid fuel, however it never used solid fuel all the time he looked after it, but it was also rather inefficient, it was used as it basic burnt waste produces, when the coke ovens closed so did the power station, but to burn multi fuels the burner needs adjusting for each fuel, most woods and coal have around the same calorific value per unit weight, but the burner is restricted by volume not weight, so the volume needs adjusting to match the fuel.

Burning coke or charcoal is OK as all nastiness removed, but wood and coal need very careful temperature control to reduce emissions, too hot and waste heat, too cold and nasty stuff in flue gases, this means they have to burn at a set rate, so the normal is to have water heating so energy can be stored and released as required, these systems Torrent pipe example.PNG seem to be the bees knees, and my brother-in-law had one which did work very well, installed as the house was built, so no problem having a reinforced floor for the twin massive water tanks, however when he moved, and looked at fitting one in new house, well rather an old house, the cost of install was simply silly, with quotes in excess of £10,000 to install.

I have an open hearth fire, there for emergencies, board in front of the fire with pipe to AC so only hot air goes up the chimney normally, I have solar panels, and a battery with built in UPS so central heating will still run with no grid power, so unlikely I will ever used the open grate, have not fitted a modern efficient fire as then could not use chimney for the AC. Also I am old enough to remember coal fires, and all the dust due to them, drafts in the house, and carrying out ashes, no thank you, I still light coal fires, but not at home. I work on the local heritage railway and Polish coal is not a patch on Welsh coal, getting coal is becoming a real problem.
 
And the chances of these type of fires being banned soon is pretty high at the moment because of the ficticious climate change scaremongering.
Not just climate change
Have a look on line for the report by Sheffield university on microparticulates from woodburning stoves.
They are currently running a much bigger study in conjuction with Nottingham University.
 
And the chances of these type of fires being banned soon is pretty high at the moment because of the ficticious climate change scaremongering.


In metropolitan areas - yes , but to deny people in rural areas the ability to heat their homes isn't going to win any votes
 
Clean-burning multifuel stoves are not the main problem.

Climate change and air pollution are not the same thing.
 
I spoke to my stove man and apparently the opening isn't wide enough, pity. I might have to go something electric instead.
 

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