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Using the logic that the SNP like to use on matters such as Brexit, perhaps those districts who didn't vote SNP could be moved to England and excluded from the Scottish independence?
That allegation has been made by several politicians, not least by Boris.We had a (once in a generation vote) in 2014. We voted to remain as part of the union.
When the conditions change so much, it's wise to have another vote.We've already had a vote. As a believer in democracy, I believe that decision should be respected. You can't just keep voting until you get the decision that suits you.
Of course an independent Scotland can apply for membership.That's immaterial because Scotland can't re-join Europe.
EU have moved on from Brexit. It's about time UK did the same. But it can't, UK still needs a bogeyman to blame for its problems.It would be typical of the EU to allow Scottish membership just to spite the Brits for Brexit.
Catalonia is not an sovereign nation. It's a region in Spain.Even if eligibly to join the EU it would take Spain to completely forget about Catalonia and their push for independence. Does anybody really think that Spain will allow a region having gone independent then join the EU. What planet are these people on?
No time restraints were placed in that agreement.I didn't say that.
Maybe I wasn't very clear when I said that we can't just keep having elections until someone gets what they want.
Under the terms of The Edinburgh Agreement, both sides agreed to respect the outcome.
All democratic nations keep on having elections every few years. It's what democracy is about.A common practice in that there European Union, ask the Irish.
The EU treaties provide a legal route for any member nation to leave if they wish.I don't understand the need for independence by the Scots.
They pretty much run themselves in 90% of all aspects, yet have the advantage of England propping them up financially. The constant it's all Westminster's fault I find a bit dumb founding to be honest.
The real problem is they can get over what happened several hundred years ago. They really know how to hold a grudge.
The other thing I don't understand is the want of independence to then give that independence straight to the EU, which won't give them any more independence than they already have.
I also can't see Spain letting them in the EU, Scotland would be seen as the magazine front cover feature for the independence of Catalonia (another region that can't get rid of the grudge from centuries ago).
Had the UK stayed in the EU, the SNP would still be arguing for independence, I don't buy the we wanted to stay in the EU so now we need independence.
In the words of John d, and the other staunch remainers whom insist on calling all brexiteers thick... I assume all Scots who want independence must also be thick, as the case for their independence is much much worse than that of brexit.
The oil and gas of the North sea is now dying out, so they can't rely on that, the fishing industry is on its knees, even before brexit, if they were to join the EU fishing would still be on its knees except it's likely more EU baits will be in their waters than before.
There is no guarantees they will be able to join the EU, do the EU want another free loader on their books for a start, especially as due to the loss of UK money and covid they are wanting to start tightening the purse strings.
I haven't managed to find any documentation that states Scotland will be better off financially leaving the UK.
That said if that's what they want then so be it, they won't be able to blame Westminster for their failings then.
Bit of misnomer there. Unusual for fillyboy.Breaking news:
The prime minister has called a summit with the leaders of the devolved administrations in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, saying the UK is "best served when we work together".
And the same apply to NI, Wales?Using the logic that the SNP like to use on matters such as Brexit, perhaps those districts who didn't vote SNP could be moved to England and excluded from the Scottish independence?
Some on here are suggesting that same thing regards London or any other city that distances itself politically from the government in power. Let's divide the country - smash it to bits, so we can all live together, happily ever after.Using the logic that the SNP like to use on matters such as Brexit, perhaps those districts who didn't vote SNP could be moved to England and excluded from the Scottish independence?
Scotland didn't have a vote on Europe, it was a British vote and Britain voted to leave.They should get the vote again as in fairness they did vote to stay in the EU.
We can apply but we won't get in because we don't meet the criteria.Of course an independent Scotland can apply for membership.