Part P is the sensible bit; the inclusion of electrical installations in the Building Regulations. This should have been done many years ago.newspark_paul said:This post demonstrates the insanity of part-p.
The Building Regulations are there to impose a set of minimum standards on construction. You are confusing Part P with measures intended to aid compliance.Part-P was supposed to improve the safety of domestic electrical installations, but how the hell can this be achieved by letting a 5-day wonder in to start rewiring houses.
The 5-day courses are aimed at people who already carry out electrical work - and have often done so for many years and would probably continue to do so. They are there to provide the minimum electrical installation qualification required for membership of a self-certification scheme. People do fail these courses, all the time, and many then go on to fail on-site assessments. But at least the attendees are making an effort...Mark, you'll probably learn enough in 5 days to qualify as a DI, but you can't really believe that 5 days will qualify you as a spark... As a time-served spark I think it's ridiculous that a law that was introduced to improve safety (based on dubious stats) has this way of fast-tracking people in to the industry.
...unlike many a time-served spark who is out of date, has forgotten a lot of the theory and simply doesn't care. I see plenty of examples of shoddy work done by time-served electricians. I also see quality work carried out by non-sparks.
Oh god, this old chestnut! Nobody is allowed to rewire a house without informing Building Control (the same way that time-served, qualified builders still have to notify BC before building an extension).Members of 'competent persons schemes' have been assessed as competent to self-certify compliance. Bear in mind that without self-certification the operating costs of every domestic electrician would be enormous because practically every job would need to be notified in advance and the BC fee paid. The example you give is completely irrelevant because most LABCs will happily accept an EIC as proof of compliance with BS 7671 and issue a completion certificate accordingly.At the same time a 20 year spark who is a QC for an NICEIC registered firm cannot rewire his own house without notifying BC.
Oh, I agree with you about this poster. He shouldn't be doing what he is doing... but at least he's trying to learn. It's not the 5-day wonders you should be worried about, it's the carry-on-regardless brigade who are un-policed, unqualified, cash-in-hand, underhand and possibly downright dangerous.Before any of you jump on me bear in mind this is a DIY forum but this guy is installing for profit.