is it acceptable to have kitchen lights as part of the ring to a kitchen power circuit with rcd protection and a 30 amp mcb?
lights on a kitchen circuit
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NO.
Your betst option would be to provide an FCU on the ring with a 5amp fuse, and wire your lights from that.
What's wrong with the kitchen/other lighting circuit?
PS This is notifiable work in England & Wales
Your betst option would be to provide an FCU on the ring with a 5amp fuse, and wire your lights from that.
What's wrong with the kitchen/other lighting circuit?
PS This is notifiable work in England & Wales
The last post, when looked at along with the previous ones, brings to mind the old adage about walking preceding running.
The previous ones look as if you're trying to do some fairly significant design and installation work on the basis of asking random questions here as and when you encounter something you realise you don't know.
And this body of work:
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makes it look as if you may well be doing this in other people's houses, people who have hired you with the expectation of getting someone who knows what they are doing, and entitled to be charging for their services.
Yes? No?
For someone who, over 2 years ago, claimed to be interested enough in electrical work as to want to undertake training and gain a qualification, presumably so as to be able to offer a wider range of services to his customers, you really haven't learnt much, have you.
For your information Ive just done my 17th edition and part p and so im still finding my feet I sont undertake anything im not comfortable with and work alongside other electricians when I need to nothing wrong with trying to further my knowledge by asking questions on various scenarios is there???
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and regarding the above post its something I came across whilst plastering somebodies kitchen today
lights wired directly to the ring? and 30a or 32a mcb?
So if you have done your 17th eds, why do you not know the answer or answers to the question asked?
It's not a common set you, but it is not unacceptable but provisions must be made for load, fuse ratings and cable sizing for starters.
Have you ever done any deign calculations?
yea I was skimming round the sockets so turned the mcb off that was labelled kitchen sockets and the sockets were dead but so were the kitchen lights!
The breaker was a 30amp with a 30ma rcbo, she wanted to know how the best way to put the kitchen lights on the down stairs lighting circuit and other than ripping the floor boards up or my freshly skimmed ceiling i think shes stuffed
The breaker was a 30amp with a 30ma rcbo, she wanted to know how the best way to put the kitchen lights on the down stairs lighting circuit and other than ripping the floor boards up or my freshly skimmed ceiling i think shes stuffed
I didnt say I didnt know the answer did I? I just wanted clarification to what I already thought
Unless your client is expecting cables to magic themselves within the fabric of the building.
Indeed thoughts are correct.
So what is the answer then? and what did you think?
Ok well considering I havent really inspected the circuit, Im presuming a worst case scenario of a radial circuit with the section of cable for the lights being 1.5mm csa and then probably installation reference method 100 to 103 will give a cable rating of 16 amps with a mcb of 30amps is not good if there is a fault current
103 actually gives a cable rating of 10a
A worse case scenario would be 1.0mm csa....
Which would be 8a if assuming 103
A worse case scenario would be 1.0mm csa....
Which would be 8a if assuming 103
so worst case scenario
Would be RM103 at 8amps.
You have a 30A device, you need to consider the loading of the 1.0mm cable.
Has it been down fused?
Would be RM103 at 8amps.
You have a 30A device, you need to consider the loading of the 1.0mm cable.
Has it been down fused?
I cant see any fcu anywhere
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