outside security light into 3 pin plug

[coop5]

Hi guys

Real quick one, the missus today bought an outside security light as the council have decided to turn the street lights off at 1am... anyway

I want to know if I can simply use the appropriate flex cable from the light, round the side of the house and into the garage, then here just use a 3 pin plug into a socket? Swapping the fuse to a 3amp

If this will suffice what cable will I need

( I am not an electrician but can change lights ans sockets etc)

Hope you can help

Thanks

 

[ericmark]

I assume you are asking about the Part P rules. If something is fixed then you still have to pay the LABC if installed in one of the special areas even if you use a plug and socket unless it is part of a pre-assembled unit.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Real quick one, the missus today bought an outside security light

What type and what power?

 

[coop5]

Cheers mate its a homebase :-! Outdoor pir light. 240v 60w max

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

I want to know if I can simply use the appropriate flex cable from the light, round the side of the house and into the garage, then here just use a 3 pin plug into a socket? Swapping the fuse to a 3amp

You can but regulations and requirements need to be complied to.

If this will suffice what cable will I need

That will depend on the environment and external influences of the route and length of cable.

( I am not an electrician but can change lights ans sockets etc)

It will be cheaper to employ an electrician, that can self cert the work, than paying the application fee for notification and they can then select the cable for you.


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[Taylortwocities]

I want to know if I can simply use the appropriate flex cable from the light, round the side of the house and into the garage, then here just use a 3 pin plug into a socket? Swapping the fuse to a 3amp

Is there no power or lights in the garage that you could use?
, that would considerably reduce your problems!

 

[Johnmelad]

Take a look here
http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wc...eateTheLook/how_to_install_outdoor_light.html

 

[bernardgreen]

Take a look here
http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wc...how_to_install_outdoor_light.html[/QUOTE]Then look for instructions on how to do it properly.

In the instructions for adding a junction box to a lighting circuit they fail to sleeve the blue switched live with brown, And they fail to explain how to feed a rubber cable through a cavity wall.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Also no mention of safe isolation procedures or continuity, polarity, IR, Zs test.
Although it seems a neon screwdriver is a suitable tool for continuity testing!

 

[SaladFingers]

I assume you are asking about the Part P rules. If something is fixed then you still have to pay the LABC if installed in one of the special areas even if you use a plug and socket unless it is part of a pre-assembled unit.

Isn't it for fixed wiring only, rather than flex and a plug?

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

"Fixed electrical equipment" would be the key term and also assume (if I dare) that the cable/flex will be secured using a compliant method.

 

[ericmark]

I assume you are asking about the Part P rules. If something is fixed then you still have to pay the LABC if installed in one of the special areas even if you use a plug and socket unless it is part of a pre-assembled unit.

Isn't it for fixed wiring only, rather than flex and a plug?

This is the point one would normally fix an outside light to the wall and also fix the cable to the wall. The use of a plug does not make it fixed or not fixed.

I am not saying one has to follow the law. I am sure at some point I have allowed my car to wander over the 30MPH limit. However is some one was to ask me "what's the speed limit here" regardless as it if I would obey it myself I would still tell the guy what the limit is. The same applies here. The poster has asked the question we need to answer that question. And the answer is not worth paying LABC their fee, better to use a scheme member electrician. Which in turn means he does not need to know how to do the job.

 

[SaladFingers]

I assume you are asking about the Part P rules. If something is fixed then you still have to pay the LABC if installed in one of the special areas even if you use a plug and socket unless it is part of a pre-assembled unit.

Isn't it for fixed wiring only, rather than flex and a plug?

This is the point one would normally fix an outside light to the wall and also fix the cable to the wall. The use of a plug does not make it fixed or not fixed.

I am not saying one has to follow the law. I am sure at some point I have allowed my car to wander over the 30MPH limit. However is some one was to ask me "what's the speed limit here" regardless as it if I would obey it myself I would still tell the guy what the limit is. The same applies here. The poster has asked the question we need to answer that question. And the answer is not worth paying LABC their fee, better to use a scheme member electrician. Which in turn means he does not need to know how to do the job.

Just for clarity, I wasn't discussing deliberate avoidance of LABC or notifcation, simply only how one is going to define fixed wiring and a fixed appliance.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Probably by focusing on the word "fixed", and ask "Is the appliance or its wiring fixed to anything?"

The definition of "fixed appliance" in BS 7671 is also relevant.

 

[Taylortwocities]

The definition of "fixed appliance" in BS 7671 is also relevant.

Absolutely

An inspection light on a flexible lead with a plug is not fixed.

A security light, screwed to a garage wall, with the cable clipped around the wall is fixed.

However, I'm still waiting for a response from the OP to my query as he may not need to trail/fix cable all round his house wall.

Is there no power or lights in the garage that you could use?
, that would considerably reduce your problems!