Shame you had then to go on and add insult to injury by your further statements.
The reason I also printed on the other site was to spread the net of potential advice - not meant as an insult to the fragile egos who appear to inhabit this site.
There's an excellent thread elsewhere on this site about the attitudes of a minority of experts - which summarises far more eloquently than I can how poor the site, or at least this section of it, has become.
The truth of the matter is that electritioning is not rocket science - it is dangerous and technically complex - but those of us who are competent DIYers don't neccessarily have the time outside of our day jobs to learn the life-saving neccessities to sit alongside the more mundane money-saving niceties; which is why we visit here to get clear, concise, correct advice from those whose professional life is dedicated to electritioning. But it isn't rocket science, so it might be a good thing for a few of you to get down off your high-horses, drop your high-handed, self-agrandising, puffed-up, over-inflated super-ego-driven pusillanimous attitudes and resume normal life with the rest of us down here. Remember, if you'd worked harder at school you'd have chosen a different trade.
Feeling the humour now Holmslaw?
Hi, I have to say I do agree with that.
I dont come on this site and post often.. lol actually only really come on to look at some of the "picture of the week" kind of pics because alot of the time I find it funny.
But I have to say.. for a site, that was originally setup to help people with DIY.. every time I post on here, I get abuse shouted at me, and the general attitude particularly in this electrical section is quite bad.
If people dont know about Part P.. fine, tell them about it.. make them aware. But then if somebody chooses to ignore that, thats their choice.. they have been told, know the consequences and are knowlingly taking on the risk. If something goes wrong its their own fault.
But as incompetant as some people seem.. is it not better to help them carry out the work safely? and give the advice?... than to taunt them for beign incompetant and useless?.. because as im sure most of you are aware.. you can brand somebody incompetant as much as you like.. but they will still go ahead with carrying out the task they set out to do if they are hellbent on it, only difference is they are more likely to have an accident because when they went to seek advice they was given abuse... and in some cases the advice which could of been given, could of adverted an accident.
And also, education is always better than prevention.
If somebody doesnt know.. then teach them, again.. that is the purpose of this site.
may I quote from the homepage,
"DIY can be both challenging and rewarding - this is where DIYnot.com aims to help. Our expert teams have brought together hundreds of information pages. Why not Do It Yourself?"
I dont claim to be completely competant.
But, I have tried to gain the relevant knowledge to carry out tasks safely.. I invested in getting copies of the regulations, the guides.. Part P guide etc.. spent about £200 in total.
I got a fully calibrated test meter.
even starting a C&G qualification course soon.
and before undertaking anything I try to ensure im capable of completing the task properly, and to the relevant standard, and referencing the regulations to ensure its done properly.
I done a CU change, and re-wired my kitchen recently.. and did it through LAB.. who was completely happy with my work, and the electrician that came down even commented that id done the work to a high standard.
Previously ive done supervised work with the electrician making the final checks and checking in as the install was being done before signing it off.. and he was also happy with the work id done.
yet every time I come on here, just because i maybe unsure of something, ive been branded as useless and incompetant... which has then forced me to try and figure it out myself and hope its the correct way of doing it.
but I cant be "that" incompetant if electricians seem happy with the work im doing, and im actually trying to gain a proper knowledge and do things properly by testing and gaining the appropriate qualifications.
But things regarding electrical work are never going to get safer, declining knowledge to people who are genuinely incompetant, and dont have a clue if they are hellbent on carrying out the task.
simply because, if you tell them how to do it.. they will be more likely to follow what you say and try to do it properly.
but if you decline the knowledge and dont help, they will go out and do it anyway.. somebody telling them not to isnt going to stop them... and thats how you end up with a dangerous installation...
now im sure, this post will get abuse thrown at it.. as per usual... so im not even going to bother commenting further.