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Assuming their is two fuse spurs attached to dual back box and both are feed from separate circuits each of which are both feed by RCBOs, would this constitute poor design as both circuits would be earthing the same back box?
 
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I forgot that RCBO are not directly fitted to the earth of the cable, though wouldn't a earth fault on one circuit also cause the RCBO to trip on the other as the earth would be connected via the back boxes
 
no. all the earths are at equal potential and all connected together back at the consumer unit. a fault from line (live) or neutral from one circuit to any earth or exposed extraneous conductive part should cause the relevent RCD / RCBO to trip.
 
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Ok sounds like its ok their must be a switch on my head that doesn't like two earth's from different circuits joined
 
It's not a problem.

Supplementary bonding in a bathroom requires the earth of every circuit to be joined together.
 
Consider also the situation where metallic conduit is used as the means of earthing and contains two or more circuits. The earth will be shared by all circuits concerned.
 
Or in the case of a boiler, immersion etc with metal pipework, all ecps will be joined together and also to the main protective bonding.
 
Supplementary bonding in a bathroom requires the earth of every circuit to be joined together.

really....!!??

i was told by an electrician (few weeks ago) rewiring a house that only the water mains and gas main pipe needs to be earthed now days.

becasue we where re piping the bathroom (1960s house) and asked if he wanted to get the earth cables up to the bathroom while we had the floor up.. and he said the above...
 
Was he fitting kitchens and bathrooms before becoming an electrician?

Supplemetary bonding was required under the 16th edition and still required depending on circumstances under the 17th edition.
 
Was he fitting kitchens and bathrooms before becoming an electrician?

Supplemetary bonding was required under the 16th edition and still required depending on circumstances under the 17th edition.

what a odd question..!

no, it was a professional company hired by the house owners.

so he was wrong and this house isnt legal?
 
His 'global' opionion is wrong.

Sorry about the odd question - it was more sarcasm directed to some loosly called 'electricians'.
 
Supplementary bonding in a bathroom


Under the 17th edition regulations (BS7671:2008) supplementary bonding in a bathroom may be omitted where certain criteria are met. These criteria are as follows:

All circuits comply with the requirements for disconnection times
All circuits are RCD protected by a 30mA device maximum
All extraneous conductive parts in the location are effectively connected to the protective equipotential bonding.

so basicly, as they had a brand new 17th ed fuse box fitted, they dont need supplementary bonding in the bathroom?
 
There are a couple of other criteria, but basically, if it is a brand new installation carried out to the 17th edition, then supplementary bonding may be omitted. If not, then it may still need to be installed.
 

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