'Vaccines' not the 'cure'...

[ellal]

According to the latest from borisconi...

"Boris Johnson has warned that the reduction in coronavirus infections, hospitalisations and deaths "has not been achieved" by the rollout of COVID vaccines."

"The prime minister, speaking the day after the latest easing of lockdown restrictions, instead said it was the national shutdown that had been "overwhelmingly important" in driving down COVID rates."

So what is the point of the largely untested 'vaccines'?

And if 'lockdown' is so 'effective', why remove it?

borisconi himself pledged that said 'vaccines' were the 'road to freedom' because of the 'effectiveness of vaccines'...

The UK is indeed being 'led' by a complete nutter!

 

[securespark]

The vaccine will not stop you from catching it, but will lessen its effects.

 

[noseall]

So what is the point of the largely untested 'vaccines'?

Untested? Millions of people have received the vaccine.

So what is the point of the largely untested 'vaccines'?

Reduces the horrendous symptoms of the disease. Death rates from those who contract it will fall.

And if 'lockdown' is so 'effective', why remove it?

Lockdown is a preventative measure and it is proved to work - twice. We'll just have a third sesh if things go south.

 

[Notch7]

According to the latest from borisconi...

"Boris Johnson has warned that the reduction in coronavirus infections, hospitalisations and deaths "has not been achieved" by the rollout of COVID vaccines."

"The prime minister, speaking the day after the latest easing of lockdown restrictions, instead said it was the national shutdown that had been "overwhelmingly important" in driving down COVID rates."

So what is the point of the largely untested 'vaccines'?

And if 'lockdown' is so 'effective', why remove it?

borisconi himself pledged that said 'vaccines' were the 'road to freedom' because of the 'effectiveness of vaccines'...

The UK is indeed being 'led' by a complete nutter!

Ellal, you are bright enough to understand what you have written is misleading.

Please put it in context: the govt are rightly concerned about people becoming complacent, that is the driver behind Johnson's message.


Tell me Ellal, would you prefer the risks of the vaccine or the risk of being hospitalised from Covid and getting long term health issues after.

 

[denso13]

So what is the point of the largely untested 'vaccines'?

They were widely tested using large numbers of people. You really do look foolish when you lie like that.

The AZ vaccine is actually a well proven technology with the same process being used well before Covid came along.

 

[ellal]

Ellal, you are bright enough to understand what you have written is misleading.

Please put it in context: the govt are rightly concerned about people becoming complacent, that is the driver behind Johnson's message.


Tell me Ellal, would you prefer the risks of the vaccine or the risk of being hospitalised from Covid and getting long term health issues after.

borisconi clearly stated that the vaccine was the way back to 'normal' life...

Now he says it isn't...

So which bit of his babbling is true?

There will be no route back to what we knew as 'normal life', because the controls that have been introduced are rather convenient for governments!

But I'll take my chances without the jab for the moment.
(I reckon most of us have had the 'virus' already anyway)


But notchy, will you tell us why the drug companies should deserve immunity from legal action from any 'complications' from the jab(s)'?
(That will of course become the 'new normal')

And what will you say to the families of the tens of thousands who are likely to die from treatable illnesses because of the way the 'virus' is preventing diagnosis/treatment?

Because the NHS waiting list is about to hit 10 million!

 

[ellal]

They were widely tested using large numbers of people. You really do look foolish when you lie like that.

The AZ vaccine is actually a well proven technology with the same process being used well before Covid came along.

You fail to omit that two of the 'jabs' are mRNA which are new...

So could you tell us what the long term effects of the 'jabs' may be?

And could you also tell us what the normal cycle time of clinical trials for a new type of vaccine/drug is?

I shall also repeat what I have asked several times, but have failed to get an answer...

Will you tell us why the drug companies should deserve immunity from legal action from any 'complications' from the jab(s)?

 

[denso13]

Will you tell us why the drug companies should deserve immunity from legal action from any 'complications' from the jab(s)'?

They are not immune from legal action from any complications.

It's funny how you people question the motives of others but will lie at the drop of a hat to suit your agenda.

https://fullfact.org/health/unlicen...rers-are-immune-some-not-all-civil-liability/

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Slightly OT but I think the next 2-4 weeks is going to be very interesting re: covid numbers. With things starting to open back up and various restrictions lessened, my concern is we see another rise in numbers leading to another change of plan ...

 

[JP_]

Some days when I open up DIYNot, I think I must be in Groundhog day.

Didn't we have this exact same conversation, last week, and the week before, and the week before that ...

 

[ellal]

They are not immune from legal action from any complications.

It's funny how you people question the motives of others but will lie at the drop of a hat to suit your agenda.

https://fullfact.org/health/unlicen...rers-are-immune-some-not-all-civil-liability/

An out of date article which shows your ignorance!

From a few months later...

"The UK government has granted pharmaceutical giant Pfizer a legal indemnity protecting it from being sued, enabling its coronavirus vaccine to be rolled out across the country as early as next week.
The Department of Health and Social Care has confirmed the company has been given an indemnity protecting it from legal action as a result of any problems with the vaccine.
Ministers have also changed the law in recent weeks to give new protections to companies such as Pfizer, giving them immunity from being sued by patients in the event of any complications."

Other countries have refused to waive that liability...

There is a taxpayer funded 'Vaccine Damages Payments Act' in the UK, but that is limited to £12k for those who become 'permanently disabled or harmed'.
(try proving that!)

As usual privatise the profit and socialise the debt!

 

[denso13]

From a few months later...

I don't believe the MSM like you sheeple. Unless it backs up my argument of course...

 

[ellal]

Slightly OT but I think the next 2-4 weeks is going to be very interesting re: covid numbers. With things starting to open back up and various restrictions lessened, my concern is we see another rise in numbers reading to another change of plan ...

The latest roll out of testing kits will no doubt lead to rising numbers, and thus more convenient restrictions.
(testing should have been done far earlier if there was a serious concern)

The fact that the vast majority of people who have had or will get this 'virus' are unaffected is irrelevant...

Control and kerching is the 'new normal'!

Do you think that the 'emergency legislation' which allows parliament to be bypassed will ever be lifted?

 

[ellal]

I don't believe the MSM like you sheeple. Unless it backs up my argument of course...

Best you check out the Lancet and 'emergency use legislation' then

 

[denso13]

but that is limited to £12k

Wrong again, it is £120k. https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment