Vinyl flooring

[Garrybibson]

I am looking at buying and installing this flooring in our spare bedrooms. Any advise on what adhesive I need to use.

http://www.flooringsupplies.co.uk/vinyl/14825/polyflor_colonia_nordic_white_oak_4436_vinyl_flooring

The subfloor is chipboard, which I might cover with hardboard if it turns out to be uneven, but first inspection looks pretty flat and it is a relatively small area.

Any advice appreciated.

 

[footprints]

If you click on the recommended accessories they sell the adhesive.

 

[dazlight]

Put 6mm plywood down. Using ring nails every 6" and every 4" on joints.

 

[Garrybibson]

I looked at the accessories and could not find a suitable one to use. I called them and they recommended balls f48. Sound ok?

 

[footprints]

Yes it is the top item in the list yellow tub £30.83.

Out of interest why are you going for a stuck down vinyl, looks nice but a nightmare if you ever have a problem with wiring or pipework under floor.

A neighbour had the bathroom tiled, then she had to have work done on the heating , they ended up pulling down the ceiling in the kitchen for access

 

[Garrybibson]

What else would you recommend as an alternative?

 

[footprints]

Click fit laminate?

http://www.quick-step.co.uk/laminate/creo/white-ash-7-strip?id=Flooring_FloorAggregate/005_423843

Or if it is a bathroom ordinary vinyl loose laid and perhaps siliconed at the edges.

 

[dazlight]

Go with the LVT. Great in bathrooms. Hopefully your pipes underneath are sound and won't need to rip the floor up.
You can use F44, F46 adheive. Better and easier to use then F48

 

[dazlight]

Have you had a price off a local flooring shop or fitter to do job.

 

[Garrybibson]

No, I was going to have a crack at it myself. Any advice? What makes the 44 & 46 easier?

 

[dazlight]

f48 is a High temp adhesive which going off very quickly. So you don't have much working time.
f46 is a pressure sensitive and stays tacky for ages so great to use.
You will need a A2 notch trowel

But start with a good plywood. I use SP101, if you can get it mate. If not try get one that isn't Chinese as you can have problems of the plywood delaminating.

 

[Garrybibson]

Do I definitely need to use plywood? The chipboard I have down looks pretty flat.

What does pressure sensitive mean?

 

[dazlight]

If you go straight over the chipboard the joints can swell from the adhesive and show through after a while. But upto you mate. Seen a few people do it.
Preesure sensitive means you let glue off then out tikes in when tacky an the preesure of pushing them in holds tiles in place , or something like that

 

[ree]

dazlight,

What you say about swollen edges to chipboard/particle board is also sometimes true of the less than 12mm plys. 6mm ply and less will swell.

Guys get round it by leaving a 3mm gap and feathering in a filler. They then Belt sander it down when dry - some finally go over the seams with an Orbital sander.

Its been an ongoing concern and question on US Pro Flooring Forums. Sheet vinyl in the USA is an enormous industry still - Armstrong run excellent training courses but their top trainers dont seem to want to deal with the issue.
The APA (plywood assn.) wont deal with it either.

Believe me, if you get a six weeks later call back for 2000 yards of flash coving in a dot com high end McMansion it concentrates the mind on the issue.

 

[Garrybibson]

Can I treat the chipboard with something like pva to stop it absorbing?

What does feathering mean?