What code would you give this?

[RF Lighting]

I was carrying out an EICR today on a hairdressers.

One issue I noted was they had two standard domestic showers both supplied by a BS3036 fuse and no RCD.

There was no supplementary bonding, and there is a socket outlet within 3 meters of the shower head.

The showers are only used over those sinks where you lean your head backwards, and there is no shower tray.

What code would you issue for this?

 

[saladtoes]

dunno, but as it is not a normal bathroom then there is less likleyhood of minimal clothing and wet feet et al

 

[dingodeano]

C2. It's unsatisfactory for me.
With it being a place of work and a mixture of joe public and dizzy Tracey hairdressers in the vicinity....how long is the cord on a hairdrier?

 

[saladtoes]

i guess there are over a thousand hairdressers with socket outlets with three metres of the shower head. Is all equipment plugged in class II? would it help to have IP rated masterseal outlets or flex to fused spurs?. I understand the IET will add a hairdressing section in 2015. after they have removed the IEE print from the spine of the BGB

 

[saladtoes]

C2. It's unsatisfactory for me.
With it being a place of work and a mixture of joe public and dizzy Tracey hairdressers in the vicinity....how long is the cord on a hairdrier?

and what would be your solution?

 

[streetlighter]

Most worrying about that statement was two electric showers on BS3036 fuses, Im guessing a single phase incoming supply and a wylex standard consumer unit ?
What KW rating are the showers ? and is it likely that both are in use at the same time ?

 

[saladtoes]

Most worrying about that statement was two electric showers on BS3036 fuses, Im guessing a single phase incoming supply and a wylex standard consumer unit ?
What KW rating are the showers ? and is it likely that both are in use at the same time ?

I am sure RF has thought about that

 

[saladtoes]

could you argue that the waste of the sink was zone 0, zone 1, please do, work for us all.n after all, it is a basin.

 

[dingodeano]

In a cover letter suggest rcd protection for showers and socket outlet if of course the oc protective devices are co ordinated + main equipotential bonding is present. if the socket is not for a regularly used piece of equipment then loose it. Or if it is needed consider changing it to a permanently wired spur pref with cord short enough so shower head and equipment cannot be held at same time.

 

[saladtoes]

Or if it is needed consider changing it to a permanently wired spur pref with cord short enough so shower head and equipment cannot be held at same time.

impossible

 

[saladtoes]

a relay between shower and socket outlet

 

[dingodeano]

Or if it is needed consider changing it to a permanently wired spur pref with cord short enough so shower head and equipment cannot be held at same time.

impossible

Heater?

 

[saladtoes]

In a cover letter suggest rcd protection for showers and socket outlet if of course the oc protective devices are co ordinated + main equipotential bonding is present. if the socket is not for a regularly used piece of equipment then loose it. Or if it is needed consider changing it to a permanently wired spur pref with cord short enough so shower head and equipment cannot be held at same time.

and while you are at it, why not rcd the lights if you consider it a bathroom, with no supplementary bonding, put that in your covering letter!!!

 

[dingodeano]

Lots of crappy salad around at the moment.

 

[saladtoes]

why get personal, when you are wrong?