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chinablue777

Joined: 06 Dec 2011 Posts: 46 Location: Devon, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:21 pm |
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Can anyone recommend a decent plug-in heater that actualy works?. A mate of mine told me ceramic ones work the best over a short period of time , but for instant results a blow heater is better. The only ones I have seen are on Amazon , Kelkoo etc but get poor ratings. Any realy good ones out there? |
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Burnerman

Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Posts: 8153 Location: Northumberland, United Kingdom Thanked: 1641 times
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:45 pm |
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Do you mean a heater that warms up the car's coolant, or a garage one?
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wotan

Joined: 24 Dec 2007 Posts: 10919 Location: Cheshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 138 times
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:01 pm |
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| Burnerman wrote: | Do you mean a heater that warms up the car's coolant, or a garage one?
John  | I get the impression to warm the car interior to remove condensation from the screen.
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Burnerman

Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Posts: 8153 Location: Northumberland, United Kingdom Thanked: 1641 times
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:02 pm |
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Me too - but there's so little space to actually fit one of these things.
The 'blow heater' reference threw me a bit.
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chinablue777

Joined: 06 Dec 2011 Posts: 46 Location: Devon, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:18 pm |
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Hi there . When I said blow heater I meant the fan type that you can fix on top of the dashboard. The heater matrix has had it and to replace it means removing the complete dashboard , so I am going with the plug in type. |
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ch427

Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 2087 Location: Cardiff, United Kingdom Thanked: 166 times
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:31 am |
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every plug in type ive seen has been rubbish |
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Burnerman

Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Posts: 8153 Location: Northumberland, United Kingdom Thanked: 1641 times
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:05 am |
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Plug in cooling fans, yes - never heard of a plug in heater though.
Maybe caravan shops or similar would stock them.
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Stivino

Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 2111 Location: Midlothian, United Kingdom Thanked: 128 times
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:39 am |
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I've seen them. They don't provide much heat though, that'll be due to the limited amount of current it can draw through the cigar lighter socket.
To get any real heat from an electric fan heater in a car, you'd need to connect it straight to the battery with a set of jump leads.
then you'd need an alternator the size of a house to provide the power etc. |
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spinsmall

Joined: 07 Dec 2011 Posts: 18 Location: Sheffield, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:13 pm |
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chinablue777

Joined: 06 Dec 2011 Posts: 46 Location: Devon, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:36 pm |
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Hi there Spinsmall and thank you for your reply. It is petrol. I must admit I have never heard of eberspacher , but I am off to have a look now !
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spinsmall

Joined: 07 Dec 2011 Posts: 18 Location: Sheffield, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:39 pm |
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should of finished off my post, those heaters burn desil not much use in a petrol |
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Guitarguy

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 170 Location: Wiltshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 8 times
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:31 pm |
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I had one in my old car and used it when the heater matrix decided to break. Put it this way- I would of been better off sitting round a cigarette for warmth! |
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dhutch

Joined: 12 Oct 2011 Posts: 1218 Location: Staffordshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 80 times
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:28 pm |
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| Stivino wrote: | I've seen them. They don't provide much heat though, that'll be due to the limited amount of current it can draw through the cigar lighter socket.
To get any real heat from an electric fan heater in a car, you'd need to connect it straight to the battery with a set of jump leads.
then you'd need an alternator the size of a house to provide the power etc. |
This is it.
Fag lighters (or 12v take off points, if you want to be PC) at best are at 20amps. 20*12=240watts a tenth of that of average fan heater. Ten times less in, ten times less out.
Alternator might be as much as 100amps = 1200watts but you want something left to run you headlights and recharge the battery, so even if you hard wire it in your walking 6-800watt really.
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Avocet

Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 303 Location: Cumbria, United Kingdom Thanked: 36 times
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:33 pm |
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Most car heater matrices can dissipate several kilowatts of heat. You need a lot of heat to keep a car warm because they're moving through cold air and they're very poorly insulated. By comparison, the very best you can hope to get out of a fag lighter socket (as dhutch explains) is a few hundred Watts - so you'd need at least 10 of them (and the power to feed them!) to get anything half decent. At best, you'll blow the fag lighter fuse. At worst you'll set your car on fire!
Eberspachers (and Webasto sell a similar thing) burn diesel. I can't think of a petrol powered one. They're also quite expensive to buy new (probably rather more than getting the matrix fixed). Second hand, you might be able to pick up an Eberspacher truck cab heater, but they're likely to be 24 Volt, and still burn diesel anyway. |
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dhutch

Joined: 12 Oct 2011 Posts: 1218 Location: Staffordshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 80 times
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:38 pm |
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| Avocet wrote: | | Eberspachers (and Webasto sell a similar thing) burn diesel. They're also quite expensive to buy new.. |
And not always the most reliable thing or cheapest thing to keep running!
Last edited by dhutch on Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:21 pm, edited 1 time in total |
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