Mad Dogs

seco services · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:47 pm

The list is endless.

joe-90 · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:57 pm

subman101 wrote:

joe-90 wrote:

seco services wrote:

subman101 wrote:

When a dog "loses it", do you think that it too is just returning to some natural instinct?

A dog in it's natural world is a relaxed, stress free layed back animal until brought into the human world.

A dog in its natural world is a wolf.

There are other breeds of canine other than a wolf

But they are not what the domestic dog descended from.

seco services · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:59 pm

subman101 wrote:

That the dog has to have a well defined role within the (human) family that replaces a pack?

You are the pack leader your dog is a follower.

ie walking a dog, should never walk in front of you their withers should be at your side.
Should sit, heal walk when told.

Feeding a dog should be after you've had your meal, should sit and wait when bowl put down until it's told to approach food.

Jumping/sleeping on your bed gives them hierarchy leadership. not what you want.

All part of being a follower and having boundaries/limitations.

subman101 · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:00 pm

joe-90 wrote:

But they are not what the domestic dog descended from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_domestic_dog
Point made and taken. Thanks joe

peaps · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:01 pm

subman101 wrote:

seco services wrote:

joe-90 wrote:

A dog in its natural world is a wolf.

What i'm refering to is it will have it's place in the groups packing order.
When brought into our lifes it won't because people don't enforce it.

Is that the key to success then, from you experience and knowledge? That the dog has to have a well defined role within the (human) family that replaces a pack?

Alpha training is a certain way to cause a dogs to turn.

subman101 · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:03 pm

Thanks seco. I wonder how many dog keepers don't do enough basic research and thus potentially create problems.

seco services · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:09 pm

subman101 wrote:

Thanks seco. I wonder how many dog keepers don't do enough basic research and thus potentially create problems.

Most I see over the woods etc are lacking training and control.
Their dogs are loopy and the owner has no control and then the raised voices start and i just laugh at them.
We get people come to us and we turn them away due to the lack of basic control they have over their dog.
We advise start with basic control then come back.

handyman77 · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:10 pm

We owned a yorkshire terrier and he could be vicious, loved to attack the neighbours german shepherd. Caught himhanging off his neck on a couple of occasions. Worked in a few houses where little white terriers (cant think of the make and model

) are vicious little blighters, always biting your ankles. Its in the genes!

wreckedit · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:11 pm

seco services wrote:

You are the pack leader your dog is a follower.

ie walking a dog, should never walk in front of you their withers should be at your side.
Should sit, heal walk when told.

Feeding a dog should be after you've had your meal, should sit and wait when bowl put down until it's told to approach food.

Jumping/sleeping on your bed gives them hierarchy leadership. not what you want.

All part of being a follower and having boundaries/limitations.

I wondered what I was doing wrong, she (BH)didn't explain it to me just expected me to do it. Many thanks for info.

peaps · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:13 pm

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/my-puppy-my-self/201007/corens-turnaround-how-the-pack-leader-model-dog-training-is-flawed

Interesting read.

gremlin16 · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:22 pm

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Now, a puffy poodle or such like. You don't hear about them having a go very often - or are people too embarassed to say if they do get bit by one

Dont feel embarassed if biten by a German water dog or French retriver or gun dog.
Dont under estimate the poodle, they can be nasty barstewards.

alumni · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:32 pm

gremlin16 wrote:

Dont under estimate the poodle, they can be nasty barstewards.

I know, but much more manly to admit being bitten by a proper nasty terrier

peaps · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:34 pm

alumni wrote:

gremlin16 wrote:

Dont under estimate the poodle, they can be nasty barstewards.

I know, but much more manly to admit being bitten by a proper nasty terrier

Have you seen a Russian terrier?

wreckedit · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:34 pm

I have found Staffs. to be pussies . Can't work out why the big toughy would want one

I wouldn't own one cause it would spoil my image.

seco services · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:35 pm

Look like old scuffy men.
very protective nature about them.