DIYnot
Local | Network
   DIYnot > Forums
Local | Network
DIYnot Network Local DIYnot Network Local  
  Forum IndexForum Index     RulesRules    HelpHelp     Join FREERegister Free     BookmarksBookmarks     Watched TopicsWatched Topics     SearchSearch     LoginLogin 

howto drain and refill central heating


 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    DIYnot.com Forum Index > Plumbing and Central Heating
  Bookmark and Share View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
hartnellg

from United Kingdom

Joined: 16 Mar 2004
Posts: 29
Location: United Kingdom
Thanked: 0 times

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:46 am    Post Subject:
howto drain and refill central heating
Reply with quote Thanks

I'm planning to add some Sentinel X400 sludge remover to my central heating system and at the same time fit a towel radiator - I think I can get away with a partial drain

After I've run the sludge remover for a couple of weeks, I was then planning to fully drain down, remove and flush each radiator in turn, fit TRVs in place of the standard valves and also replace the lockshield valves that are leaking

I'm concerned about getting the filling correct so that I don't
a) damage the boiler by running it dry
b) damage the pump by running it dry

Where the pump is located there appears to be some sort of vent - the only marking I can see is 'Flamvent'. This was fitted over 20 years ago

I thought there was 'How to drain and refill a central heating system' but can't find it - anyone know where it went to

Thanks for any advice
Back to top
 Alert Moderators

If you don't want to see this advert, click here to login or if you are new click here to join free.
hartnellg

from United Kingdom

Joined: 16 Mar 2004
Posts: 29
Location: United Kingdom
Thanked: 0 times

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:16 pm    Post Subject:
How to drain / refill central heating
Reply with quote Thanks

I realised that I had given very little information about the system
So here are some more details:

Boiler is a Potterton Netaheat 10/15
Fully pumped two pipe system fed by feed/expansion tank in loft
3 motorised valves that isolate the hot water, ground floor heating and first floor heating
Where the motorised valve heating pipework combines at the pump is the venting device ("Flamvent")

The system was installed in 1984 by my (late) father, who had been a plumber since the year dot

Any contribution welcome

Thanks
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
Expertboy

from United Kingdom

Joined: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 231
Location: United Kingdom
Thanked: 1 time

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:54 pm    Post Subject:
Reply with quote Thanks

Be careful with the partial drain, seen people do this before with bad consequences.

If you:

Knock off the boiler
Turn mains water off
All zone valves set to manual
Open up a downstairs rad valve
and then drain away until it stops.

Remember when filling you may need to check your motorised valves are still in the manual position to re-fill the system.

__________________
i accept no responsibility for any of your mistakes whether you took my advice or not icon_smile.gif


Last edited by Expertboy on Fri May 12, 2006 8:16 pm, edited 1 time in total
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
Paul Barker

from United Kingdom

Joined: 04 Aug 2005
Posts: 6291
Location: Yorkshire,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 97 times

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 5:38 pm    Post Subject:
Reply with quote Thanks

To drain down, tie up float valve or whatever. Turn boiler and pump off. Manually open zone valves, attach hose open drain cock, starting upstairs open all rad vents and if fitted a vent on the hot water coil, move downstairs and open those vents.

When refilling make sure zone valves are still manually open, leave upstairs vents open, open all downstairs vents a tinsy winsy bit, then open one a full turn (I never open any vent more than a full turn unless it's blocked, usually half a turn is adequate) wait with it to fill move on, at least get some water in all downstairs rads before closing vents and going back through them one by one. Same for upstairs.

Usually this involves a little gambling and a lot of ruinning around and a few educated guesses but avoids air locks.

If you do get an air lock you have to start employing cunning.

I usually find starting pump on different speeds, stopping it and listening for air bubbling up the vent and/or feed. When it stops start pump again, ad nausium.

If when you come to reliught boiler a certain zone doesn't get hot, shut all valves to rest of system and see if pump will pump out the air lock, usually does.

Last resort, hardly ever necessary backfill. Involves a little gambling or plenty of confidence in overflow pipe.
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
Display posts from previous:   
  Bookmark and Share View previous topic :: View next topic  
Post new topic   Reply to topic    DIYnot.com Forum Index > Plumbing and Central Heating All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Similar Topics   Replies   Views   Posted 
Boiler making noises after drain and refill of system 13 600 Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:52 pm
Drain Down and Refill Combi 20 6460 Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:10 pm
Combi drain down and refill 3 960 Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:45 am
How to drain down system (and refill) if no outlet ? 6 620 Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:31 pm
Ravenheat CSI85 interrmittant after drain+refill. 3 60 Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:54 pm

Varme Carbon Heating Film 5.0sqm & 10sqm Depron Varme Carbon Heating Film 5.0sqm & 10sqm Depron£232.99Varme Carbon Heating Film 7.0sqm & 10sqm Depron
Varme Carbon Heating Film 7.0sqm & 10sqm Depron£284.74
Varme Carbon Heating Film 3.0sqm & 10sqm Depron Varme Carbon Heating Film 3.0sqm & 10sqm Depron£181.24Varme Carbon Heating Film 15.0sqm & 20sqm Depron
Varme Carbon Heating Film 15.0sqm & 20sqm Depron£530.04
Varme Carbon Heating Film 20.0sqm & 30sqm Depron Varme Carbon Heating Film 20.0sqm & 30sqm Depron£697.71Varme Carbon Heating Film 18.0sqm & 20sqm Depron
Varme Carbon Heating Film 18.0sqm & 20sqm Depron£607.66



DIYnot
Find an Expert | Find a Supplier | Search DIYnot.com
Network | Advertising | Newsletter
DIY | DIY How To | @home | DIY Wiki | DIY Forum
By using this site you agree to our Terms of Service / Disclaimer.
Please read our Privacy Policy.