DIYnot
Local | Network
   DIYnot > Forums
Local | Network
DIYnot Network Local DIYnot Network Local  
  Forum IndexForum Index     RulesRules    HelpHelp     Join FREERegister Free     About CookiesCookies     SearchSearch     LoginLogin 

Internal door handle height


 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    DIYnot.com Forum Index > Windows and Doors
Search this topic :: View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
JDLDIY

from United Kingdom

Joined: 04 Dec 2003
Posts: 477
Location: United Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:21 pm Reply with quote

How high from the floor do door handles normally get installed on an internal door? I guess there must be a norm or rule of thumb but I can't find it anywhere. The handles in this house are varying!

Many thanks.
Back to top
 Alert Moderators

If you do not want to see this advert, click here to login or if you are new click here to join free.
Richard C

from United Kingdom

Joined: 26 Apr 2005
Posts: 10589
Location: United Kingdom
Thanked: 989 times

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:24 am Reply with quote

If they not solid doors, you have to ensure you fit the handle into the lock block. It's a solid lump of wood, usually installed on one side of the door only; the rest of the door is a virtual egg box & wonít support the handle.

I don't know if there is a BS recommended height for door handles but I'm fitting new doors at the moment & all my handles are 900mm from the bottom of the door. This was largely dictated by the position of the existing latches but if they are 6 panel doors & you have round door knobs, in the centre of the middle transom looks better.
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
mr_mike

from United Kingdom

Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Posts: 88
Location: London,
United Kingdom
Thanked: 1 time

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:39 am Reply with quote

City & Guild's rule of thumb is.....990mm from bottom of door to centre of the lever normally......however, if it's on a panelled door with a middle rail, locks/latches are normally positioned in the centre of that rail's width.....
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
Richard C

from United Kingdom

Joined: 26 Apr 2005
Posts: 10589
Location: United Kingdom
Thanked: 989 times

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:43 am Reply with quote

mr_mike wrote:
City & Guild's rule of thumb is.....990mm from bottom of door to centre of the lever normally......however, if it's on a panelled door with a middle rail, locks/latches are normally positioned in the centre of that rail's width.....


That would not be unreasonable on a flush panel door & it puts it just off centre of the standard door height; but be carefull, 990mm would certainly be outside of the lock block area of the 6 panel moulded doors I'm currently fitting!
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
JDLDIY

from United Kingdom

Joined: 04 Dec 2003
Posts: 477
Location: United Kingdom

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:16 pm Reply with quote

Quote:
That would not be unreasonable on a flush panel door & it puts it just off centre of the standard door height

I don't get that, I make 990mm exactly half way up the door if you take standard height as 1981mm (give or take half a mm). So what is the standard height for a door, all mine are 762mm x 1981 (x 40mm but that's another story).

Next question; what is the standard or guideline for choosing the length of mortice catch? How far should the handle be away from the door stop part of the frame?

Many thanks for your input guys, really appreciated. This has turned out to be a b*****r of a job!
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
Richard C

from United Kingdom

Joined: 26 Apr 2005
Posts: 10589
Location: United Kingdom
Thanked: 989 times

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:18 pm Reply with quote

Absolutely right; I made the mistake of thinking the standard door ht. was 2000mm but in fact itís 1980, as you say!

Re the mortice latch length, it depends on the type of door handle youíre fitting; if itís a lever handle then 75mm on 760mm doors & 63mm on a 690 door is what I chose that looks about right - thatís the total length of the latch & not the distance to the hole.

If youíre fitting round knobs, you need longer mortices. Iím not sure what lengths they come in but 75mm is not nearly enough; your looking at probably 100mm+. If you use 75mm mortices, the knob will look stupidly close to the edge of the door &, even worse, you will catch your knuckles on the door jamb every time you close it.

A friend of mine specified knobs instead of levers in his new brand new house build; the chippy (or whatever he was!) was obviously not experienced with knobs & fitted 75mm mortices! My friend has got used to the safety hazard now but every time I (or probably any visitor) uses the loo in his house, I catch my knuckles on the door jamb & it can hurt quiet a bit! The poor guy has solid oak doors (£150 each!) so they have really been totally ruined by fitting incorrect length mortices; 12 months later, heís still arguing with the builder about it!
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
splinter

from Antarctica

Joined: 10 Apr 2004
Posts: 778
Location: Antarctica
Thanked: 2 times

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:36 pm Reply with quote

Richard C wrote:
mr_mike wrote:
City & Guild's rule of thumb is.....990mm from bottom of door to centre of the lever normally......however, if it's on a panelled door with a middle rail, locks/latches are normally positioned in the centre of that rail's width.....


That would not be unreasonable on a flush panel door & it puts it just off centre of the standard door height; but be carefull, 990mm would certainly be outside of the lock block area of the 6 panel moulded doors I'm currently fitting!


Sort of repeated what mr mike wrote icon_rolleyes.gif
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
Richard C

from United Kingdom

Joined: 26 Apr 2005
Posts: 10589
Location: United Kingdom
Thanked: 989 times

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:29 pm Reply with quote

Quote:
Sort of repeated what mr mike wrote icon_rolleyes.gif


Thats usefull! Not really

JDLDIY may not even realise many doors are not solid & only have a lock block!

What's your point?
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
splinter

from Antarctica

Joined: 10 Apr 2004
Posts: 778
Location: Antarctica
Thanked: 2 times

PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:00 am Reply with quote

Richard C wrote:
What's your point?


That the lock block will be situated where the middle rail is
Back to top
 Alert Moderators
Search this topic :: View previous topic :: View next topic  
Post new topic   Reply to topic    DIYnot.com Forum Index > Windows and Doors All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Similar Topics   Replies   Views   Posted 
Internal door handle height? 7 15680 Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:07 am
Handle height - internal doors 8 12080 Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:06 pm
Non Standard door size - OK to chop 8cm off height/6cm width 5 120 Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:11 am
opening height double bifold door 4 300 Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:11 pm
Raising height of PVC door? 6 560 Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:59 pm


 
DIYnot
Find an Expert | Find a Supplier | Search DIYnot.com
Network | Advertising | Newsletter
DIY | DIY How To | @home | DIY Wiki | DIY Forum
By using this site you agree to our Terms of Service / Disclaimer.
Please read our Privacy Policy. Copyright © 2000-2014 DIYnot Limited.