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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:20 pm Post Subject:
Wall Light in Bathroom
My existing wall light has earth, neutral and live wires, but the light fitting I have just purchsed from Ikea only has neutral and live. Is it OK to put the earth wire in a plastic connector?
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:37 pm Post Subject:
Yes it is ok. Put it in a connector block, don't cut it short, and make sure it's marked green-and-yellow. The light should have a double square symbol on it to show it is double insulated, or marked as Class II.
Also be certain that it is designed for use in bathrooms. It should have an IP rating and the instructions should show which zones in the bathroom it is suitable for.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:43 pm Post Subject:
You need to check wether the fitting carries the double insulated symbol, which looks like this:. If it does then the fitting does NOT require an earth, and it is fine to put it in a piece of strip connector on its own.
If it does not carry the DI symbol then it probably does require an earth connection.
Also as this fitting is going to be installed in the bathroom, you need to ensure it is suitable for the zone in which it will be sited.
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:13 pm Post Subject:
Hello all , I'm glad someone posted this up because I was a little unsure, I'm adding a spotlight in my bathroom. It says it's double insulated and DO NOT EARTH.
So can I just clarify, I connect the Live & Neutral to my junction box above the ceiling fitting but leave the earth alone, or should this be wired to the junction box above my main light.
If no earth is needed at either end would I be better off using a cable with no earth?
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:23 pm Post Subject:
Where in relation is it going in regards to a bath or shower basin? What it it's IP rating? Generally, you should run and terminate the earth to each point, wether it is required or not as you may wish to replace the light with a class 1 version in the future. Depending where it is, it may also require supplementary bonding if the circuit isn't already done. Also, please note that if you are in England or Wales adding a light in a bathroom is notifiable to your LABC under Part P of the building regs.
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:06 pm Post Subject:
hello spark,
the light is going on the ceiling, directly above the sink. The light fitting is suitable for the outside zone of a bathroom.
What is supplementary bonding ? I already have the ceiling light fitted, I just want to run a the spotlight ( a normal 60watt bulb 220/240v) to come on with the ceiling light by running a cable from the junction box that the ceiling light is connected to up through the loft and to the recess light over the sink.
I didn't know that adding a light in a bathroom is notifiable to your LABC under Part P of the building regs. they should state that in the lighting instructions.
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