If your not safe enough to be trusted to drive during the hours of darkness, regardless of what your age, you should not have a driving license.
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Interesting one, this. My son passed his test around two years ago, and was fortunate enough to be able to drive his mothers car, a lease car from her time as a home care worker. The insurance was an extra £36, so it was a good situation all round, as far as he was concerned anyway. Six months on from passing his test, out with his mates in their cars 'doing a tour' of our town, he ends up parking the car about 6 inches too close to his 'mate' in front, damaging the front bumper on the car, and the rear of his 'mates' car. I say 'mate' like this because we subsequently discovered that this 'friend' was a serial fender bender, as he liked to change his motor every year or so, so liked to jam his brakes on when others were a bit too close. I can hear you say now, well he should have given himself enough braking space, blah blah blah. I say if you were a young male driver once I'm sure you may have been in a similar position!!
Anyway, as this was a Saturday night, the town centre was quite busy with a few onlookers, I just glared at him, his mother jumped into her newly bent up Astra, and I took him home. The repair, albeit a small one, amounted to £1200. A few months later, when he bought his own car and tried to find cheap insurance, he was getting quoted between £1400-1600 fully comp for a car worth only £800, he was bemoaning this extortionate sum. I asked him how many of his mates, within the first six months of passing their test, had an accident. His reply, "Hang on .....one ....two .....thr .....fo ........fi ...... six......yeah six I think." I proceeded to explain to him that this was the reason why authorities are placing these restrictions onto young drivers
Anyway, as this was a Saturday night, the town centre was quite busy with a few onlookers, I just glared at him, his mother jumped into her newly bent up Astra, and I took him home. The repair, albeit a small one, amounted to £1200. A few months later, when he bought his own car and tried to find cheap insurance, he was getting quoted between £1400-1600 fully comp for a car worth only £800, he was bemoaning this extortionate sum. I asked him how many of his mates, within the first six months of passing their test, had an accident. His reply, "Hang on .....one ....two .....thr .....fo ........fi ...... six......yeah six I think." I proceeded to explain to him that this was the reason why authorities are placing these restrictions onto young drivers
In the news today,,,, some think tank or researchers are today calling for the introduction of graduated licences for young people passing the driving test.
One stipulation is no driving at night time or when it's dark, as young people are more likely to have an accident whilst driving during the hours of darkness.
My own view of this ? How on earth would these young inexperienced drivers gain the night time experience?.
The research done, apparently takes no account of who caused the accidents which new drivers are involved in at night. For all the researchers know they could have been caused by some 40+ yr old drunk on his way home from the pub.
Perhaps they should make night time driving lessons compulsory?
Perhaps local councils should provide better street lighting?
What's your view of this?
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My, now 18 yr old was on a curfew when she passed her test last year, from 11 at night till 5 am, brought our insurance for her down from 17 hundred, down to 11 hundred, tracker on it. brilliant idea. and iv'e been a scrote in the past.
JJ
To get a licence in Germany the driver must have the compulsory driving lessons which include driving on the autobahn and night driving. I would like to say it helps but there are still a lot of under twenty fives dying on the roads
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Do they need a towel for parking as well?
Any new driver should not be allowed to drive a car with an engine greater than 1300cc, whether it is their own, friends or relative etc, for 2 years
All driving lessons must should have a minimum of 2 hours motorway driving, the test should should incorporate some motorway driving
All driving lessons must should have a minimum of 2 hours motorway driving, the test should should incorporate some motorway driving
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with the right tuning and appropiate amount of money you can get a 1300cc engine to give out 200+bhp.
needs a bit more thought than that.
Then with the appropriate tuning comes the appropriate insurance. Doesn't need much more thought at all really, drop it to 1200cc. It will cost lots of money to get a 1200cc or even a 1300cc engine to produce 200bhp+...you would be talking pretty much an engine rebuild. Not all new drivers are going to be doing that.
I've said it before in the past, its frightening that a young lad who just passes his test, can go out and buy (finances depending) a top of the range high powered sports car and take it onto a motorway.
I have seen enough accidents on our motorways involving young drivers to last a lifetime!
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imamartian
Has anyone looked at the stats? who are the worst trouble on the roads? new drivers? old drivers? people on their phones?
We should lay off the young and give 'em a chance....besides, when i passed my test 30 years ago, there was a fraction of the traffic there is today... if you try to get out of a junction these days, you have huge Beemers, Audi's etc with devil led lights thundering past. Whereas in my day, all the cars looked like they'd been built in someone's shed, and they tootled everywhere..!!
We should lay off the young and give 'em a chance....besides, when i passed my test 30 years ago, there was a fraction of the traffic there is today... if you try to get out of a junction these days, you have huge Beemers, Audi's etc with devil led lights thundering past. Whereas in my day, all the cars looked like they'd been built in someone's shed, and they tootled everywhere..!!
I agree with that yes, but I still think the lessons/test should have more motorway and night driving involved. Taking extra courses for motorway driving shouldn't be optional really
Young drivers are more prone to having accidents
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oompah
What sort of car is she driving for that kind of insurance? both my daughters started out with 1100 cc engines and the insurance was £700 third party fire and theft.
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yep, i agree, just missed it out of my post... it's ridiculous to allow someone on a motorway without them having experienced it in a supervised way. Maybe someone could develop a dual controlled car, where the instructor could assume complete control, just by turning the wheel, or pressing a pedal?
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i disagree.
a driver who could have afforded a subaru impreza with or without finance will be more than happy to drop 5k on an engine. an engine rebuild isn't difficult, i had my first one under my belt at 17. i agree it's not going to be all of them but there's going to be a lot of them doing it.
the insurance part of it is entirely voluntary until they get caught, crash or die. many will take the risk.
i have no idea how old you are but i've had my license almost 19 years, my attitude has changed dramatically in that time. i used to be one of the drivers we are talking about in this thread. young drivers have no interest in road safety, only showing off and shagging. that won't change with lower powered cars which can do just as much damage. better education is the way, sadly we live in a country too ineffective to realise it.
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merlin50
I was a boy racer until i was about fifty
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