Lawrence

Just as you seem to think only "white British people" are racist. I can assure you racism isn't a one edged sword. It cuts both ways, but the law is designed to be totally in favour of the "ethnic minorities" here in the UK.

Ain't that the truth? I understand it's a result of the British traditionally feeling sorry for the underdog. I wonder whether the same will apply when we are the underdogs.

If you say on one hand that the 'British' traditionally feel sorry for the underdog, do you accept that you are out of step with mainstream opinion on this one then?

For me it's more a concern that the police pervert the course of justice instead of upholding it. this would be the case regardless of who the victim was.
 
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Whilst you're out there looking for 'causes', how about a 'young man murdered by several racists', in a cowardly, despicable and savage way on the streets of London? Justice not served. Remember PC Blakelock?

Suppose that's different? Not exactly a cause-celebre for the hard-wringing brigade. :rolleyes:

You are proving a point for me here.

The police handling of the PC Blakelock murder is exactly the kind of thing that needs rooting out . Blakelock's real killer was helped by police corruption, in a similar way they allowed IRA bombers to get away with murders because they fitted up innocent people as scapegoats, or their incompetence surrounding the Jean Charles de Menezes shooting .

This should focus the minds of those who think we should forget it and move on. Because it has implications for everyone on this island.
 
Just as you seem to think only "white British people" are racist. I can assure you racism isn't a one edged sword. It cuts both ways, but the law is designed to be totally in favour of the "ethnic minorities" here in the UK.

Ain't that the truth? I understand it's a result of the British traditionally feeling sorry for the underdog. I wonder whether the same will apply when we are the underdogs.

If you say on one hand that the 'British' traditionally feel sorry for the underdog, do you accept that you are out of step with mainstream opinion on this one then?

No.
 
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If you say on one hand that the 'British' traditionally feel sorry for the underdog, do you accept that you are out of step with mainstream opinion on this one then?

No.[/quote]

Sorry , I misread you then. From your answer you say you are in step with what you feel are traditional, mainstream British values That is to say, you sympathise with the underdog, ie the Lawrence family in this case.

Understood.
 
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OK, I know this isn't a law but the other evening, there was a programme on about the success of black female singers - surely they are just singers? So that programme was designed to be racist.
 
OK, I know this isn't a law but the other evening, there was a programme on about the success of black female singers - surely they are just singers? So that programme was designed to be racist.

Urban Mythology again. If not, how about a link so that we can make up ou own minds rather than rely on your interpretation? :rolleyes:
 
I'm not going to get into a long argument with you, as you are a habitual troll.

I'm hardly an advocate of the multicultural society. Not a secret.
:LOL: :LOL:
So you are suggesting that your viewpoint is acceptable, but because mine isn't, I'm a troll. :LOL: :LOL:
Indicative of the intelligence of your ilk, I suspect. :LOL: :LOL:


It isn't necessary, workable or in the best interests of the 'host' population, who had it forced on them. No political party mentioned the promotion of virtual open-door immigration in their manifesto - and no one voted for the increasingly unsustainable and sometimes dangerous situation that we find ourselves in.
So why not follow the democratic process and discuss it with your represenatives instead of stiring up racial hatred on forums? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
One method is legal, acceptable and responsible, the other is bordering on the illegal, is unaceptable and irresponsible. I'll leave you to work out which is which.
In addition, you suggest that the policy-makers have caused a situation so you ferment racial unrest against the migrants, rather than discussing it with the policy-makers. :rolleyes:

With this in mind, I am hardly likely to be interested in the problems and struggles of the etnics. They certainly ain't interested in our problems.
So you, apathetically, turn a blind eye to the injustices throughout the world, whenever ethnic violence is concerned? OOps, sorry. no, you aren't apathetic, you actually support ethnic violence. You demonstrate this by encouraging racial hatred.

The only people winding themselves up into a state of hysterical, righteous indignation are the lefty bleeding-hearts like you.
Suppose we have a sense of moral indignation when people are formenting racial hatred, as well? If that's being "lefty" then bring it on.

Whilst you're out there looking for 'causes', how about a 'young man murdered by several racists', in a cowardly, despicable and savage way on the streets of London? Justice not served. Remember PC Blakelock?

Suppose that's different? Not exactly a cause-celebre for the hard-wringing brigade. :rolleyes:
It is exactly a cause for the "hand-wringing brigade" because of the underlying cause of the murder of PC Blakelock.

You're obviously not well informed, (possibly becasue you don't give a toss, but you still arrive at assumptions based on your limited knowledge). So allow me to enlighten you.
The riots, during which PC Blakelock was murdered, was brought about by police racist approach to the black community, which, in the black community's opinion, resulted in several deaths of black people in police custody. These deaths were not investigated. Moreover, that attitude and approach of the police did not change. The most recent death, immediately before the riots, was a young black female. It was later detetermined that she died of a heart attack (We'll probably never know if that was accurate or not).
This lead to the riots. The black people viewed the police as racist. We now realise that it was understandable and probably accurate.

PC Blakelock was murdered during this rioting. What were the factors leading to his death?

More importantly, as Micilin indicated, the police coruption and incompetence fermented the racial tension futher.

Perhaps you should read the history of such events before jumping to conclusions or making invalid assumptions or comparisons. :rolleyes:

Then, ask yourself, what was the real cause for racial tension between the various groups and the police in the London area.
Was it the inherent attitude of the individuals in the police force, or the attitude of individuals in the community?
Then, consider, who had the power to change the outcome? If only they'd realised at the time where their attitudes were leading.
 
Not sure where in this thread it is suggested that only 'white British people' are racist? Racism exists in all kinds of places, and is equally ridiculous and abhorrent anywhere. And it is a strange sort of logic that justifies bigorty on the basis that some other people are bigoted.

No need for me to respond to the other comments because Micilin has already eloquently responded.
 
you sympathise with the underdog, ie the Lawrence family in this case.

Why are they the underdog. Because you say so? There just people who have suffered a tragic loss. Stop calling them underdogs FFS. They are every bit as equal as you or I. They wouldn't be seen as underdogs if people like you stopped calling them it. Your only going on about Lawrence cos he was black. Half the inequalitites left in society today are because some types won't leave it alone. Go stick up for badly watered plants or some other cause for you feel good about and stop perpetuating the racist problem.
 
you sympathise with the underdog, ie the Lawrence family in this case.
Why are they the underdog. Because you say so?
You have the Metopolitan Police and various judicial enquires on one hand and the Lawrence Family on the other fighting for a proper investigation.
Who do you think should be classed as the underdog? :rolleyes:


There (sic) just people who have suffered a tragic loss.
They're not just people who suffered a tragic loss. They are people who had to fight the system(s) for over twenty years for justice.


They are every bit as equal as you or I.
Well I'd pobably put them into a heroical category. Well above you or I.
BTW, so did others, hence the honours. There were several.


Your (sic) only going on about Lawrence cos he was black.
The Met made the distinction in the first place when they decided that his ethnicity would affect the quality of the investigation (and the coruption that followed)


Half the inequalitites left in society today are because some types won't leave it alone.
All of the inequalities left in society is because some types still practise various biases.


and stop perpetuating the racist problem.
Continually drawing attention to an issue is not perpetuating a problem. It's raising awareness of it.
Accoding to your fallacious agument, drawing attention to climate change is perpetuating the problem. :rolleyes:
Drawing attention to flooding is perpetuating the problem. :rolleyes:
Drawing attention to the plight of aborigines in Australia is perpetuating the problem. :rolleyes:
It's the journalists fault that MPs continue to fiddle their expenses because the journalist practised investigative journalism. :rolleyes:
FFS, where were you educated?
 
Your replies are very well itemised and you roll your eyes a lot. You mock my education because I question your opinion. Trouble is that doesn't do much to bolster your argument. Ultimately you are parping on about Lawrence because he was black and sticking up for him makes you feel good. Harmless enuff if that's what you need but don't think many blacks will thank you for it.
 
Your replies are very well itemised and you roll your eyes a lot. You mock my education because I question your opinion. Trouble is that doesn't do much to bolster your argument. Ultimately you are parping on about Lawrence because he was black and sticking up for him makes you feel good. Harmless enuff if that's what you need but don't think many blacks will thank you for it.

Although I'm going to repeat myself, I think it's necessary to make the point.
The reason why I'm parping on (sic) is because the Police were racist leading to a family having to fight for over twenty years for justice.
What the police were doing is/was and will be illegal. Get it?
I don't think I've mentioned the fact that he was black. You're the one that keeps parping on (sic) about that.

In case you haven't realised it yet prejudice, in all its foms, perpetuates inequality, at least, and at worst leads to acts of violence against individuals by criminal elements who are encouraged by cowardly verbal attacks, and the worst kind are those that hide behind the veil of secrecy afforded by social forums.

The fact that the victims are of different ethnic origin gives rise to the terminology, not to the revulsion felt.
Because the basis of the prejudice, and thus the inequality and/or violence, is abhorrent it compounds the revulsion. That revulsion is felt irrespective of the ethnicity of the victims, or the perpetrators.

You, on the other hand assume that those fighting and denouncing racial prejudice is due to the ethnicity of the victims.
You couldn't be more wong and I would denounce the prejudice demonstrated against other minorities just as much. But no doubt, so would you. Which means that you probably support prejudice against ethnic minorities, but not against other minorities.

Now what is you argument for supporting racial bias? If you can formulate an argument at all. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I assume that many ethnic minorities will, of course, thank you for your racial bias. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
No wonder you repeatedly change your identity on here :rolleyes: I guess you read back the 5hite you write and realise you seldom make any sense at all. And then you disappear for a short while (thank fook)

Outside of the electricians forum no one works harder than you to make to no sense.

No need for me to respond to the other comments

But you will with bull5hit and lies as usual :rolleyes:
 
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