16 years prison for Glitter.

[terrypin]

Rot in hell you nasty, vile scumbag.

Hope your "Gary Glitter" gets a beasting everyday, for the rest of your natural.

 

[mattylad]

He is now going to be singing "Dya wanna be in my jail gang" for the next 16 years.

Good & bad.

Good that he is locked up, bad that we are having to pay for it when he could afford to pay for his incarceration. (They should make some pay for it.)

 

[JBR]

Why not jail AND fines? Big fines.

 

[terrypin]

Why not jail AND fines? Big fines.

Unfortunately fines aren't really enforceable, you don't pay and you do a little bit of time. You still owe it when you come out and so the cycle continues.
I doubt 28 days for non-payment will bother him, too much.

 

[Norcon]

If you do time for not paying a fine then how can it still be in force when you do the time?

Are you saying someone could spend a lifetime in jail for not paying a speeding fine?
And murder someone and do a few years.

 

[terrypin]

If you do time for not paying a fine then how can it still be in force when you do the time?

You do time for breaching a court order.
In days gone by the fine would be quashed after serving the time for non-payment. The downside to this was criminals would rather do that than pay.

 

[Norcon]

If they don't have the money they cannot pay.

 

[terrypin]

If they don't have the money they cannot pay.

I'm not talking about those that cannot afford it, I'm referring to those that refuse.

 

[JBR]

Not wishing to sidestep the issue, but what do people think about issuing fines based on the amount of money the criminal possesses?
A fine of £100 to a millionaire is not worth even thinking about, but to poor people like me...

 

[Norcon]

So if someone refuses to pay a speeding fine or their council tax will they be jailed indefinitely?

 

[terrypin]

So if someone refuses to pay a speeding fine or their council tax will they be jailed indefinitely?

They should be sectioned if They risk prison for £60.
Look at Council Tax, you can go to prison for not paying that and you'll still owe it upon release. why do you find it hard to believe you can for refusing to pay a court imposed fine?

 

[terrypin]

Not wishing to sidestep the issue, but what do people think about issuing fines based on the amount of money the criminal possesses?
A fine of £100 to a millionaire is not worth even thinking about, but to poor people like me...

That's why the courts introduced the 'means test'.

 

[handyjack]

In theory, a person can be imprisoned for not paying priority debts, which include:

•council tax arrears
•court fines
•maintenance arrears
•income tax or VAT arrears

A debtor can only be sent to prison for non-payment of priority debts if they have deliberately refused to pay their debts rather than having a genuine inability to pay them.

For none priority debts you can't be sent to prison for unless fraud is involve AFAIAA.

When someone is fined the amount should be based on income. At the moment for example, the fine for parking is the same if you are on or below the minimum wage or a multi millionaire.

Same for fixed penalties.

 

[Norcon]

"They should be sectioned if They risk prison for £60"

But not jailed indefinitely.

 

[Brigadier]

I got a court appearance for speeding years ago.
There is a maximum fine for the offence for which I was convicted; I don't recall what it was.
Prior to my court appearance, I was asked to complete some forms regarding my income and expenditure.
In short, I don't think that the fine (up to the maximum for any given offence) is based on income per se, but on disposable income.