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The great thing about democracy is that citizens get a chance to change their minds.
But not in the EU where laws are written in secret by unelected comissioners and voted on by one tenth of an impotent 'parliament' that has virtually no power to reform, and to which the unwashed public has no meaningful access.

Britain joined in 1973 as the sick man of Europe. In the subsequent 43 years it has flourished.
Yes, and the EU has now become the sick man of the world, outpaced by all other blocs and significant economies. Britain is not sick anymore, so it's time to say so long, and thanks for all the fish.
 
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I’ve just seen the tail end of that Jeremy Corbyn debate with that youngish audience and it has backed up what I had already concluded. He is the most honest one of all the remainers.

I have already said what I think of DC, but when you watch Osborn being interviewed or making a speech, he always has that, if you believe what I am saying you must be mad, look on his face.

It is obvious that Warsi was a sleeper for the remainers, but JC gives me the impression that he is a double agent for our side.

Toby Young thinks this is the case also and he has his finger on the pulse regarding the EU.
 
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I am 50:50, the tipping point for me would be tonights football score between Slovakia and us, because that will be a fact, so if England wins, I will vote Yes, and if Slovakia wins I will vote No.

But the only problem is I am not sure yet what I will vote Yes for and what i will vote No for, so i still need to make a little more mind up. It is damn confusing!
 
you mean, Yes, Remain or No, don't leave?

"Yes" and "No" are not options on the ballot.
 
So what happens if those who want to leave cast same number of votes as those who wants to remain? are we going to have a penalty Kicks at one another?
 
If the EU really wanted us to remain, then when Cameron fought so hard to get us a brilliant reform package, why are they making us wait until after the vote on the 23rd?

They should have just given us the deal effective immediately and that would certainly create a greater remain vote.

However, it is all a con, Cameron was asked on Question time, how long the reform package would be in place, he reluctantly replied, until 2028. That is 12 years. He said that he would not be prime minister by then so there would have to be a new deal.

He is spinning the truth about Turkey which will be fast tracked, that will be confirmed after the referendum.

BTW, this reform package is not worth the paper it is written on!
 
Turkey which will be fast tracked, that will be confirmed after the referendum.

That is of course completely untrue.

It is a lie made up and circulated by the anti-Europeans to appal to their core voters who have a Fear of Foreigners.
 
So 'Yes I feel European' scores +1 for Remain?! WTF?!

They should have just given us the deal effective immediately and that would certainly create a greater remain vote.
Seems to me the Cameron never expected it to be such a close-run thing. I think they expected Remain to be a dead cert from the start.
 
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