Prior To Brexit....

[Foxtrot Oscar]

Foxtrot Corgi's hobby.

In the same way as it is yours and Himaginns

 

[wobs]

It just gets worse:

In years to come, this will be seen as one of the most disastrous speeches ever made by a prime minister. Not only did she propose a goal which will devastate the British economy, she also gave away her own meagre leverage in securing it.

Britain will be trying to secure a trade deal, which usually takes about seven years, in a two year timetable. Given that it is a trade deal she will clearly be negotiating, it won’t be decided by majority, but by each member state. In some it may even require a referendum. In places like Belgium, it’ll require the agreement of local government in addition to national government. Basically, even if by some miracle she could negotiate the deal in time, she has no chance of ratifying it.

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/10/02/may-speech-makes-it-clear-we-re-leaving-the-single-market

And again:

The announcement of the decision about when the UK will trigger Article 50 — the process by which Britain gives formal notice that it intends to leave the EU — was made in a statesmanlike fashion. But the actual content of the decision is reckless and driven by politics, rather than Britain’s national interest.

Once Mrs May triggers Article 50, she has precisely two years to negotiate a new deal with the EU. Senior civil servants have told the prime minister that it is highly unlikely that the UK will be able to negotiate both the terms of its divorce and a new trade deal with the EU within the two-year deadline. As a result, they warned the prime minister that she must have assurances on what an interim trade agreement with the EU would look like in the long period between the UK leaving the bloc and a definitive new deal being put into place.

https://www.ft.com/content/7b78f276-8940-11e6-8cb7-e7ada1d123b1

 

[Foxtrot Oscar]

And all the remainiacs can do is flap their gums... You can either rejoice in negativity or you can knuckle down and make things work.

 

[wobs]

whereas Canada has offered to lend us 200 business negotiators to help with the Brexit negotiations.

Unlikely to use them though, as May wants to only use UK advice (no longer using foreigners for advice on Brexit):
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/07/lse-brexit-non-uk-experts-foreign-academics

It is understood a number of LSE academics specialising in EU affairs have been briefing the Foreign Office on Brexit issues, but the school has received an email informing it that submissions from non-UK citizens would no longer be accepted. Relevant departments subsequently sent notes to those in the group, telling them of the instruction.

If you're going to screw an economy, you might as well do it properly. The UK has made a mistake, now its doubling down on that mistake, and things like this will only make it worse.

 

[blightymam]

And all the remainiacs can do is flap their gums... You can either rejoice in negativity or you can knuckle down and make things work.

Agree with this. Am a remainiac (!) but I don't see the point in wallowing, nor predicting doom and gloom. Time will tell and I do know that being positive, hard work and putting the best heads together isn't going to hurt one bit.

 

[Himaginn]

Going down:

You can't make a decent meal out of a dog's dinner!

 

[blightymam]

You can't make a decent meal out of a dog's dinner!

Nice that you think the UK is dogs dinner.
I don't, I think the UK has a lot to offer, even with you living in it.

 

[wobs]

Nice that you think the UK is dogs dinner.
I don't, I think the UK has a lot to offer.

We're about to have less to offer.
With less foreign students, and scientists, our research will diminish.
Our economy has already been predicted to suffer, and we have seen an increase in racist attacks.

And why? some nebulous ideological, which was won on lies.

 

[blightymam]

We're about to have less to offer.
With less foreign students, and scientists, our research will diminish.
Our economy has already been predicted to suffer, and we have seen an increase in racist attacks.

And why? some nebulous ideological, which was won on lies.

What is that nebulous ideological of which you speak?
I think it's much more complicated than that, and in times simple. I know one bloke, ex copper, who didn't even understand what he was voting. He didn't think leave meant just that and yet he voted leave, plonker. Lies, yes there were lies, but on BOTH sides of the campaign. Tbh, the whole thing was run so badly on both sides - don't you think Cameron could've done a better job? I do, but instead he relaxed because he didn't think he would lose.

Why do we have to have less students, less scientists, less research? Do you think that the UK will stop foreign students? Why?

We had an increase of racial attacks and yet those are almost back to normal levels, so we're getting there - not to mention the more recent, excellent advancement in policing of hate crime, encouraging victims to come forward, more awareness being made. Should those facts also be considered in those figures?

And our economy has taken a hit but to think it wouldn't would be madness. It's a period of uncertainty for sure, will take some years to sort it out but what's the alternative than to get there? Is it the end of the world? Are we all going to live in poverty? I think very much that life will continue for most as it already has. One door closes, another opens and there's some very smart people out there.

 

[noseall]

One beneficiary of the Brexit campaign would be a terrorist caliphate such as ISIS. A fractured Europe would be a boon for them. Funny how a campaign of terror coincided with the run up to the vote.
Coincidence?

 

[blightymam]

One beneficiary of the Brexit campaign would be a terrorist caliphate such as ISIS. A fractured Europe would be a boon for them. Funny how a campaign of terror coincided with the run up to the vote.
Coincidence?

Interesting, but not sure how would it help them?

 

[transam]

One beneficiary of the Brexit campaign would be a terrorist caliphate such as ISIS. A fractured Europe would be a boon for them. Funny how a campaign of terror coincided with the run up to the vote.
Coincidence?

The E.U's current policy benefits the likes of ISIS & unless it changes it will be a boon for them

Although it is probably to late now ? stupid european politicians will reap the rewards of there policies , well the population of the countries will

They will be sitting in there luxury houses , on there fat pensions eating caviar & quails eggs washed down with champaigne , shrugging there shoulders

in years to come some of them should be prosecuted for gross negligence whilst in office

 

[noseall]

Interesting, but not sure how would it help them?

A fractured Europe would be weaker than a (cooperating) united one. Probably.

 

[noseall]

The E.U's current policy benefits the likes of ISIS

In what way?

 

[transam]

In what way?

Germany letting in 1.1 million migrants for a start

Sweden how many over 40,000 ??

ect ect

the numbers are so great the necessary checks cannot be made , how many isis supporters & other such fruit cakes have crossed the borders

no one knows ?? do they ??