Can't find the meaning of an acronym

[Lucky Luke]

Is it a nationally recognised organisation? Anyone could call theirselves that.....

I have tried, more than once, to find a website for this organisation, and so far, I have failed. There are one or two with similar names, but none with that exact name. However, I did find a certificate, issued by an organisation with that exact name. It has links with Pro-Chem, which I believe is a proper firm. (I suppose it would help to boost the sale of their own products.) For anyone interested, the URL is: https://wizardcleaning.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/ProChemCarpet.pdf

My own view is that it does not have much weight at all — it just looks good on a card. At least, it would seem that it has not just been made up, to impress.
Regards to all,
L.L.

 

[Nige F]

LOB - to throw - or Load Of Brolacs ?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Strictly speaking, isn't it only an acronym when an abbreviation makes another pronounceable word which then becomes common usage - so common, in fact, that the actual unabbreviated name may not be known by the user.

E.g. NASA but not RSPCA.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Strictly speaking, isn't it only an acronym when an abbreviation makes another pronounceable word which then becomes common usage - so common, in fact, that the actual unabbreviated name may not be known by the user.

E.g. NASA but not RSPCA.

Hey Mr Impudent, that's a valuable observation — and thanks, I was not aware of that. Properly speaking, the letters that puzzled me were not an acronym at all — just a particular kind of abbreviation. These days, too many words are used incorrectly, and it's changing the language for the worse. (One example: "anticipate" has come to mean "expect", and "shall" has almost disappeared, "will" nearly always being used for it, incorrectly) I had better shut up — it's an obsession of mine!
L.L.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Oh, don't get me started.

 

[SirGalahad]

?

https://www.lexico.com/synonyms/anticipate

verb
1‘the police did not anticipate any trouble’

SYNONYMS
expect, foresee, predict, think likely, forecast, prophesy, foretell, contemplate the possibility of, allow for, be prepared for
count on, bank on, look for, bargain on
informal reckon on
North American informal figure on
archaic apprehend

 

[Lucky Luke]

?

https://www.lexico.com/synonyms/anticipate

verb
1‘the police did not anticipate any trouble’

SYNONYMS
expect, foresee, predict, think likely, forecast, prophesy, foretell, contemplate the possibility of, allow for, be prepared for
count on, bank on, look for, bargain on
informal reckon on
North American informal figure on
archaic apprehend

Yes, it has come to mean expect, etc, now. However, at a time when people were made to use words correctly, it would have been used like this: The police anticipated the robbery, for they were lying in wait, in the bank. (I.e. they acted in advance of something they knew would happen.) Since then, the meaning has broadened to how it is used today. It seems that for most people, it has even lost its original meaning.

 

[SirGalahad]

Yes, it has come to mean expect, etc, now. However, at a time when people were made to use words correctly, it would have been used like this: The police anticipated the robbery, for they were lying in wait, in the bank. (I.e. they acted in advance of something they knew would happen.) Since then, the meaning has broadened to how it is used today. It seems that for most people, it has even lost its original meaning.

So we should go back to Old English?

Where do you draw the line then?

It will be arbitrary and that's the point - how can you objectively say when did we start to use words incorrectly?

There has to be some test?

 

[EFLImpudence]

So we should go back to Old English?

No. It's too late to do anything about what has already been done.

Where do you draw the line then?

Mistakes should be corrected.

It will be arbitrary and that's the point - how can you objectively say when did we start to use words incorrectly?

We can definitely say when words are used incorrectly now.

There has to be some test?

Why? Do you not know what is right and wrong today?

For example:
Do you advocate that the verb 'to have' be changed to 'to of' and we all have to copy those who don't even know what they are saying?
Do you agree that an M.P. should represent a 'consistency'?
Do you think there in they're office over their?

Simple isn't it?


However, there is no hope.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/520800-woke-uk-universities-appease-minorities/

 

[EddieM]

I suppose it's a bit on par with saying the inability to do basic arithmetic shouldn't prejudice a student studying mathematics.

Mind you that said, I've know a few mathematicians who's basic arithmetic leaves a bit to be desired.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

However, there is no hope.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/520800-woke-uk-universities-appease-minorities/

Are you a follower of Damian Wilson, member of UKIP and EFDD, Eurosceptic and populist?

Do you think his political ideology does not impinge on his opinion of teaching in Universities?
Or were you not aware of his political affiliations?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Are you a follower of Damian Wilson, member of UKIP and EFDD, Eurosceptic and populist?

No, I heard about it on the radio and that was the first article that came up apart from the times which I cannot view.

Is it true or not?

Do you think his political ideology does not impinge on his opinion of teaching in Universities?

Yours doesn't.

Or were you not aware of his political affiliations?

I was not.

Is it relevant?
Do you mean that if he thought like you he would not complain about the woke nonsense?

 

[Lucky Luke]

No. It's too late to do anything about what has already been done.


Mistakes should be corrected.


We can definitely say when words are used incorrectly now.


Why? Do you not know what is right and wrong today?

For example:
Do you advocate that the verb 'to have' be changed to 'to of' and we all have to copy those who don't even know what they are saying?
Do you agree that an M.P. should represent a 'consistency'?
Do you think there in they're office over their?

Simple isn't it?


However, there is no hope.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/520800-woke-uk-universities-appease-minorities/

I thought it would be prudent to keep clear of this wrangle (riveting though it is, I don't have much spare time), but, when I looked at the website (linked above), I just could not resist the temptation. While I am in agreement with what the article is saying, I noticed that even the perfect (such as the article's author, and me) can make mistakes. Here's what I'm referring to, copied and pasted from the article: "Don’t worry, that doesn’t mean the university degree you imagine you deserve is out of your grasp" (he ought to have said, "beyond your reach". It's so darned easy to slip up, isn't it? Yet, this kind of problem is all the more reason to polish one's awareness and be willing to learn. This benefits everyone, including those that resent being corrected.
L.L.

 

[Lucky Luke]

So we should go back to Old English?

Where do you draw the line then?

It will be arbitrary and that's the point - how can you objectively say when did we start to use words incorrectly?

There has to be some test?

Perhaps there now is no right or wrong any more (or should it be anymore?). However, I think I can see how fine distinctions of meaning are being obliterated.
This business (of the changed meaning of words) has deep roots. As I see it, some of them are: 1) The power of today's individuals to ignore those that used to have power over them (employers, teachers etc). Mass communication (in former times, words did slowly change over time, but a stupid phrase can now gain mass currency overnight ("a whole new", instead of "an entirely new"). In fact, there are so many roots of it that it would take all day to think of them, and a week to type them out. My own opinion is that it will go worse and that there is no cure. Perhaps, in time, one single word (like: ugh!) will do for anything. I don't know how the courts, and the lawyers, will be able to function! I mean, already, if you say something is wicked, it can mean either that something is downright evil or that it is wonderful. I'm off!
L.L.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

No, I heard about it on the radio and that was the first article that came up apart from the times which I cannot view.

You mean The Times which I cannot view?

Is it true or not?

Is what true or not?

Yours doesn't.

My what doesn't? Certainly my political ideology could not remotely impinge on my teaching music.
Otherwise, I don't teach in universities anymore.

I was not.

In my opinion one ought to be aware of the author's political leanings because they invariably determine their message.
To blindly adopt a journalists world view risks adopting his motive for his opinion.

Is it relevant?

In my opinion, yes absolutely!
If he wasn't a right wing populist he probably wouldn't have an opinion on universities approach to use of language.

Do you mean that if he thought like you he would not complain about the woke nonsense?

In my opinion his right wing populist tendencies determine his viewpoint.
Take for instance this comment of his:

"So woke, that even showing a grasp of the English language is now considered a nationalist, racist, misogynistic characteristic"​

How can anyone possibly relate the ability to speak English with being nationalistic, racist, or misogynistic?
The man's a raving lunatic.