Well if only one person died, it wasn't the work of a certain religion.
Are they saying there's a fault with Teslas. Wouldn't be surprised, way too much reliance being placed on computers and unproven technology.
EV are they worth it?
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Well if only one person died, it wasn't the work of a certain religion.
Are they saying there's a fault with Teslas. Wouldn't be surprised, way too much reliance being placed on computers and unproven technology.
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Also being fair .. The ability of todays' cars to become classics is far less likely, what with the build quality & reliance on expensive electronics.
During the summer months I attend a few classic car shows & never cease to be surprised at the number of unrestored survivors. These oldies are still around for the same reason as todays' cars won't be .. they are mechanically simple, devoid of complex electronics & can be DIY maintained using basic tools.
Keeping corrosion at bay though requires a certain mind-set that is alien to todays' generation .. spending money on rust prevention treatment rather than bling & mods.
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Until the damp UK climate gets into the electrics. Have known people with cars where the body and engine were perfect, but numerous electrical gremlins made it uneconomic to keep them on the road. Not just the cost of experts, but actually finding someone who really knows how to fix them made it easier just to scrap them. Not just nowadays, but some time ago. Friend had a Toyota Camry that had endless electrical faults that were too difficult to solve - about 20 years ago.
Cost of some components can write modern cars off too. Friend had an Astra van and the cost of a new fuel pump was ridiculous, and none available anywhere second hand. Brother spent £650 quid for some essential black box on his 2006 Merc recently. He realises the sense in keeping a car of this vintage and quality on the road, but many would have bailed out. He just reasoned that others less wise pay that sort of money for the monthly payment on their Euro $h!t box.
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Any chance that one or two of the sheeple in that queue are bright enough to realise their mistake? I won't hold my breath. This is the future for the poor unfortunate owners of EVs who are forced into ownership by the first owners of these things. They won't have a choice. It was ok for the wealthy, more money than sense first owners of the EVs who probably had a big house with driveway and their own personal charger. Second and third owners who are forced into EV ownership by the first owners adoption of the backwards technology may not have anywhere to charge the things. They will have to queue like the unfortunates in the video.
Remember, the type of people in government who are now 'encouraging' EV ownership were also the same ones encouraging you to buy diesel vehicles not long ago. 
They care about the economy. The more consumption of new vehicles, the better.Remember, the type of people in government who are now 'encouraging' EV ownership were also the same ones encouraging you to buy diesel vehicles not long ago.
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Our governments have split personalities. They want consumption to grow economy/GDP - while at the same time preaching that consumption is bad for the environment. Completely bonkers!
Maybe it's just too complicated and they don't know what to do. The era of free market, where merchants decide what is best, is coming to an end. The command economies of china and russia have proven to be better for the current environment. Eventually, they will run their course. But, until then nothing else will work.
Definitely this. They're just playing us, selling us fears that only they have the answers to - while all the time hoping we don't notice that they're just trying to manage the decline of The UK.
Maybe they are just trying what worked previously. The decline of a culture/civilisation can't be stopped. The seeds of destruction is within the culture/civilisation itself. Some culture/civilisations can rise again. Most don't.
I think there's a bit of misty-eyed nostalgia going on there! Your average 1970s car's build quality was utterly appalling by today's standards! A 1 year, 12,000 mile warranty was good. They only used to have 5 digit odometers because a car that had "gone round the clock" was the exception, rather than the norm. Most of them were "toast" by the time they were 10 years old!
Yes, they were mechanically simple, but way more complex than pre-war cars - which, in turn, were more complex than turn-of-the-century cars. Basically, ever since the electric starter motor, curmudgeonly old gits have been moaning about how complicated cars were getting. Every generation of DIY mechanics, has acquired the skills needed to maintain "yesterday's" cars. For my daughter's boyfriend, a laptop and lead, is as much a part of his tool kit as a multimeter is of mine. I'm no different, I look at a current car, in a DIY context, with a sense of bewilderment and dismay, but that's MY problem for being unwilling to acquire the necessary skills. My dad was just the same as the last cars with carburetors started to disappear...
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