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JBR · 9 Oct 2015

fender said:
It's realist, not racist - and saying it for what it is.
It's ****s like you that try to turn any comments into "racism" - those like you are part of the problem...

Well, almost.
It's ****s like him who ARE the problem. Our invaders are simply opportunists which, I suppose, is largely human nature.
It's the do-gooding, limp lefty-liberals who are welcoming them in - indeed actively encouraging them to come here - who are the real problem.

As an aside, just watching the TV news about Syria, it occurs to me that perhaps we should ask Putin to come over (along with his armed forces) to stop them infesting our country, because Wimpy Dave sure as hell won't.

Newboy · 9 Oct 2015

Well it's nice to see that you can have a reasoned argument without resorting to abuse. Well done - your fellow inmates must be very proud.

Strangely enough those of us with less extreme views regard you bigots as part of the problem - the other side of the same coin.

If we could get you lot into the same arena as the religious extremists and aggressive non-integrating migrants then the rest of us could get on with enjoying life.

EFLImpudence · 9 Oct 2015

newboy said:
Absolute cobblers

No, it isn't - I am talking about here in Britain.

- the line is drawn (too late more often than not)

If a line is drawn, it won't/can't be on the grounds of race or religion.

Newboy · 9 Oct 2015

Dextraneous said:
Personally, I think his tribe has simplistic views

And yet it seems to be you that uses broad-brush strokes to condemn all migrants/immigrants/Muslims/refugees/asylum seekers.

How is your view any less simplistic than the view you suggest I have (and yet have no evidence of any of my views)

So far your 'tribe' have stated that I am:

A tree hugger (no evidence)
A Bleeding heart liberal (no evidence)
A **** (plenty of evidence of that)
Lacking balls (just checked and they are both there)

You've questioned my use of the term "your side" but then go on to use your tribal analysis suggesting that you & your like-minded posters are a group/tribe.

You think I have a simplistic view (no proof) and yet you suggest a single punishment for all offenders - I assume that Fender's wife would be subject to this system of justice should she transgress.

Hardly any form of a reasoned debate - but then again that's not why your tribe post in GD is it.

Dextraneous · 9 Oct 2015

newboy said:
Dextraneous said:

Personally, I think his tribe has simplistic views

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And yet it seems to be you that uses broad-brush strokes to condemn all migrants/immigrants/Muslims/refugees/asylum seekers.

Care to specify where precisely I have done that?

How is your view any less simplistic than the view you suggest I have (and yet have no evidence of any of my views).

You want to use terms such as "racist" without really explaining what you mean by racism. You're jumping on a convenient band wagon of groupthink without actually reflecting on what you are thinking. That's the evidence I'm referring to.

So far your 'tribe'

Where have I claimed to be in any particular tribe, yet alone one that...

have stated that I am:

A tree hugger (no evidence)
A Bleeding heart liberal (no evidence)
A **** (plenty of evidence of that)
Lacking balls (just checked and they are both there)

? I think that if you check the posts on here, you'll see that at no stage have I partaken in such chicanery. I await your retraction of the accusation and subsequent apology.

You've questioned my use of the term "your side" but then go on to use your tribal analysis suggesting that you & your like-minded posters are a group/tribe.

No I haven't. Where have I claimed to be a member of those posters' tribe?

You think I have a simplistic view (no proof)

As already evidenced. You are pointing the finger and shouting racist, racist, racist at anyone who seems to hold views which don't concur with your own (unspecified and logically argued) one. That is indeed seemingly simplistic. Perhaps if you could expand on your position and argue why they are more logical than those you disagree enough with, then that might provide some credibility to what you are posting.

and yet you suggest a single punishment for all offenders - I assume that Fender's wife would be subject to this system of justice should she transgress.

I threw a jocular suggestion into the pot to see what other posters, from all tribes on here, might make of it. From this whimsical suggestion, you have decided that I am of a member of some groups or tribes on here. As such, you seen to wish to start classifying me and my beliefs into your simplistic little boxes.

Hardly any form of a reasoned debate - but then again that's not why your tribe post in GD is it.

Where is your reasoned debate? All I'm reading on here from you is defensive claptrap?

Dextraneous · 9 Oct 2015

newboy said:
And the riot was started when the mafia killed 6 illegal immigrants in a drive by shooting in a battle over drugs and prostitution - which side do you want to back?

a) The illegal immigrants
b) The mafia

What do you mean by "back". Do you mean "to win" or which side has a "preferential stance"?

longdogs · 9 Oct 2015

Gasman28 said:
the Nosey police

OMG. Can you imagine it?

'PC Nosey here, I would just like to ask a few more questions about that fallacy statement. It just doesn't add up.'

fender · 9 Oct 2015

newboy said:
Well it's nice to see that you can have a reasoned argument without resorting to abuse. Well done - your fellow inmates must be very proud.

Strangely enough those of us with less extreme views regard you bigots as part of the problem - the other side of the same coin.

If we could get you lot into the same arena as the religious extremists and aggressive non-integrating migrants then the rest of us could get on with enjoying life.

I doubt that.
You seem to be one of those that just seems to have an issue with calling a spade a spade and seeing things for what they actually are, and then just do the usual of turning it into "racist". I'm far from racist, but you'd just never understand....

jockscott · 9 Oct 2015

Question to Newboy..... Watching the original video,,, Would you want this bunch of illegals living here in the UK?

fender · 9 Oct 2015

jockscott said:
Question to Newboy..... Watching the original video,,, Would you want this bunch of illegals living here in the UK?

He'd probably give it the big large one that he'd let them have a room in his house.....

Whitespirit66 · 10 Oct 2015

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Whitespirit66 · 10 Oct 2015

newboy said:
All the little children forming little cliques and high-fiving each other.

Just shows how little you understand of us and the situation. A high five is typically a black American greeting or sign of celebration suited to those who dwell in the 'hood'. Are you for real?? If we were in need of a little mutual appreciation - do you really think this would be how we would actually carry it out?

A firm, gentlemanly shake of the hand is how civilised society shows it appreciation of others and their actions.

I reckon you've been with them too long, and gone native.

Newboy · 10 Oct 2015

jockscott said:
Question to Newboy..... Watching the original video,,, Would you want this bunch of illegals living here in the UK?

Simple question - simple answer - No
Slightly longer answer - Who are "this bunch"? I don't know anything about any of the individuals in the video so find out the background & skills and then I'll give you a proper answer.

The issues I have with this type of thread are:

1) Posting an over-dubbed video from a biased source isn't adding to the debate.
2) Any post not matching your "group-think" is immediately rounded on a liberal/bleeding hearty/lacking balls. This thread is a classic - I post eight words (giving a link to material source) in response to a question and the response is abuse.
3) If you want to have a debate then have a debate - if you want to continue to shout down everybody who you assume doesn't agree with any of your views then carry on - but don't pretend that you're having a debate.

Newboy · 10 Oct 2015

Whitespirit66 said:
newboy said:

All the little children forming little cliques and high-fiving each other.

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Just shows how little you understand of us and the situation. A high five is typically a black American greeting or sign of celebration suited to those who dwell in the 'hood'. Are you for real?? If we were in need of a little mutual appreciation - do you really think this would be how we would actually carry it out?

A firm, gentlemanly shake of the hand is how civilised society shows it appreciation of others and their actions.

I reckon you've been with them too long, and gone native.

1) High five - normally associated with American sports
2) The usual greeting in the 'hood' (or is that HUD?) is a fist bump. The theory behind it being that evidence isn't transferred between individuals.

Newboy · 10 Oct 2015

Whitespirit66 said:
DELETE

Strange choice of posts to delete - the question I asked still hasn't been answered.

Caching is a wonderful thing - you understand that by deleting your post you can't be sure that it's not still out there.

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