Pull switch removal

sparkwright · 14 Feb 2016

It looks like at the wall switch a wire has been borrowed from the switch in the next room.

Presumably to get the two way system in place, it was hard to get a 3 core+e down the wall, and so a wire (perm live I suppose) was borrowed from nextdoor.

There may or may not be a junction box somewhere, but it's irrelevent really.

Not too sure if the switches ARE wired correctly as pictures don't show this clearly to be sure.

However, if the op says the 2 way does function correctly, it will then be simple to describe how to join the pull switch wires in a junction box in the loft .

As for the wall switch, really needs tidying up. Obvious dangerous things - no grommets, unsheathed wires entering the metal box, no earth connection to what looks like a metal switch faceplate.

JohnW2 · 14 Feb 2016

sparkwright said:
However, if the op says the 2 way does function correctly, ...

That (whether it is functioning as 2-way switching) is precisely what I've been try to get him to tell us - but, unless I've missed it, he has yet to give me an answer.

Kind Regards, John

EFLImpudence · 14 Feb 2016

...and, more importantly;

WHO cut the cord?

sparkwright · 14 Feb 2016

Nik0967 said:
No both switches don't have to be on for the lights to work. they work as normal.

Is this good enough?

I don't think it matters WHO cut the cord. They can of course snap through wear.

EFLImpudence · 14 Feb 2016

sparkwright said:
Nik0967 said:

No both switches don't have to be on for the lights to work. they work as normal.

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Is this good enough.

No. That would mean they were wired in series, which is what I was trying to find out.

JohnW2 · 14 Feb 2016

sparkwright said:
Nik0967 said:

No both switches don't have to be on for the lights to work. they work as normal.

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Is this good enough?

Not really. The OP has not been at all clear. I'm far from sure that he has even tried pulling the cord (if any is left to pull) and he has not responded to my question as to what happens if he does (can!) pull it.

I may be wrong, but I take his "working as normal" (and his subsequent 'clarifications') to mean that the light(s) goes on and off in response to operating the wall switch, without anyone ever touching (maybe not for years) the 'position' of the pull switch.

Kind Regards, John

sparkwright · 14 Feb 2016

Dunno.

I suppose the reason we are doubting this is because from the pictures we have, it 'appears' the 'common' in each switch doesn't have the same colour wire - though a very few awful wall switch designs do in fact have the common terminal in an obscure place.

I'm not trying to tell you what you already know, but it may help the op to realise why all the questions...

Echo the husky · 14 Feb 2016

Isn't that how it would be wired. In to common on wall switch powered from other room, Out to light from pull switch common? Neutral and earth from who knows where.

JohnW2 · 14 Feb 2016

freddo said:
Isn't that how it would be wired. In to common on wall switch powered from other room, Out to light from pull switch common? Neutral and earth from who knows where.

Indeed - if, that is, it is good old-fashioned 2-way switching!

Kind Regards, John

EFLImpudence · 14 Feb 2016

Do you not think the pull switch looks like a double pole; do they make intermediate pull switches?

sparkwright · 14 Feb 2016

I wonder if the wall switch is a dimmer switch, and all the terminals are at the bottom, and some of the black wire disappears out of shot - that may explain why some of us aren't convinced...

sparkwright · 14 Feb 2016

EFLImpudence said:
Do you not think the pull switch looks like a double pole; do they make intermediate pull switches?

Some of these companies use moulds for other fittings, so there is a hole with nothing in it that does not do anything.

Echo the husky · 14 Feb 2016

EFLImpudence said:
Do you not think the pull switch looks like a double pole; do they make intermediate pull switches?

No that's just what BG ones are like. I've looked at enough, replacing the ones from all those faulty batches!

Nik0967 · 14 Feb 2016

I have no Idea what happened to the cord as it was missing when I moved in. The cord is not visible at all so I am unable now or in the past to use it.
When I say working normal I mean what you would expect a switch to do when you use it.
Click the switch down the light comes on.
Click the switch up the light goes out.
There are no problems between the rooms as far as turning the lights on and off via the wall switches.

sparkwright · 14 Feb 2016

Send a better pic of the connetions at the wall switch.

Is it a dimmer switch?

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