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ok thanks for the help. I have a cold water storage tank so i will go along this route. I will need to install power to the shower. I have been told that it needs to be run from the main fuse box because amount of power it pulls. Is this true or can i run the power from the extractor fan...

So.. would a shower like the Triton T80si/T90si Pumped be the answer? I just install that and problem solved? Will the water preasure be enough to push the water up to the shower unit though? Sorry i dont know if they are capable of sucking it up to them or not?

ok.. so is a pump the best option ? or is a shower with a built in pump better ? How easy is a pump to install?

i dont really have my heart set on anything :-) just wanna take a shower :-) I dont mind using tghe mixer taps.. but how do i get the water preasure up ? there is not much room around the bath to install a pump so im guessing i would need to do it in the tank cupboard?

I have just moved into a new house and am trying to get a shower installed in the upstairs bathroom. At the moment it has a mixer tap with a hose and shower head attached. The problem I am having is that when I turn on the mixer taps and lift the shower head to above 3 foot thewater preasure...

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I figured that because the water fills up the pipe and then is gone seconds later.. that maybe it was some sort of air pocket problem or something.. that was taking time to pop and let the water go down..... Im really not sure... but something is allowing running water to empty no matter how...

no i dont have this. the only thing is the inspection chamber.. and then a man hole cover.. when I lift the man hole its about a 8 foot drop to open topped pipes.. i think this is just the toilet outlet though... Im stumped... unless when i put the 15 food rod in it bent back the other way...

ok.. the sink now works totally fine..... BUT.. When I used the washine machine.. as soon as it drained it filled up the 4" pipe and started to leak out and overflow onto the floor.. I Turned off the washing machine and within seconds the water level in the 4" pipe had gone and it was...

ok this sounds like it then.... I looked up gulley trap's on google andthe pipe does indeed bend and was a little tricky to get through after about 20".. so im guessing this is the gulley trap... What I have now done is to insert a 10mm tube i had cicking about.. I slid it down the side of...

The kitchen is on a outside wall yes.... Im not sure what you mean by gulley trap ... I rodded the large pipe for 15 foot and could not find any thing stuck in it...

another update... Its the rubber bung... The rubber bung causes the pipe to be air tight.. this then causes a air bubble in the pipe and that stops the water from flowing freely..... :? No matter what angle I put the pipe at.. as soon as I put the rubber bung in it causes the pipes to...

Ok.. removed the rubber bung.. sink emptied very quickly.. put it back incase the 4" over flows again.. and it causes the angle to change and the sink to back fill... Its either the angle.. or the air tightness of the rubber bung thats causing it..... I am going to have to replumb the last...

within seconds though the 4" was empty again.. .. and it really was filling as I watched it spill over from the edges :( could not get the plug back in fast enough :roll: How am i going to fix the fault with the angle of the pipe? do they make 45' as well as 90' ones? could i just cut the...

ok here are more pics.... It has to be a problem with the pipe that comes from joint 1 until it goes in the ground..... the pipe is all fixed ad all at right angles.. by removing the rubber bung it game more movement to angle the top part down.. but this in turn raised the bottom part... Do...

ok... I think i have know what the falt is now... its to do with the part of pipe that is under the unit.. and the part that is at the top... I have removed the rubber bung and this has given me a lot more movement in the fixed part bit... i filled up the sink and pulled the plug and within...

you know what...... I think i have solved it...!!!!! Here is what i did... i removed the fixed pipe from joint 1 untill it goes into the 4" pipe.... Then i attached it again but this time sticking out of the cupboard and into a bucket.... turned on the water and it was fine... so i bend...

maybe air trapped is the fault... I have tried it without the washing machine attached and I still get the same problem... The pipe the goes under the unit has a right angle on it that you cant see and then a small thength of pipe then another right angle... the small length of pipe runs in the...

Thing is.. the water that I put down the pipes after the U bend seemed to go down very quickly... so it was almost as if there was no blockage.. I could also hear it running quite well.. when the pipes are connected up i can hear it going very slowly :-( I tried 7 full kettle loads of boiling...

ok... im even more stumped now... I have just taken the 2" pipe apart at point 1 in the picture... I then pulled the plug on a full sink of water and it emptied throught the U bend and into a bucket in a matter of seconds... Then I filled the sink again.. Using a bit of hose i sucked...