- Joined
- 31 May 2016
- Messages
- 14,486
- Reaction score
- 2,151
- Country
If this is where the investigation is going. Then we aren’t talking about £10ks worth of tax evasion with interest. But I doubt it. Unless the mail have more of the story to come.
Angela Rayner
- Thread starter transam
- Start date
If this is where the investigation is going. Then we aren’t talking about £10ks worth of tax evasion with interest. But I doubt it. Unless the mail have more of the story to come.
Sponsored Links
Whenever I hear of people talking about others with "no common sense", I’m always reminded of this story about the supposed brightest and best from one of our top universities which proves conclusively that a university education and common sense don’t necessarily go hand in hand.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2005/may/03/highereducation.news1
Why aren't the police investigating phone hacking after the recent civil cases.
It means the right wing has got a grip and wont let go.What does this mean? That I am being terrier like?
Sponsored Links
The rtb scheme is a national scheme, you cant fundamentally change that by adding in covenants. But it makes for another story.
There a major conflict in the Middle East but the Daily Mails head lines are about somebody selling their council house
I wonder why
Could it be Rish! has negative poll ratings, i wonder?
I've previously found a couple of further sources, like the one below. And then I've found others saying the opposite. It seems to be an area of considerable confusion. There doesn't seem to be anything in the primary legislation which says you have to live there as your main residence or that you can't rent it out.
https://www.cityboroughhousing.co.uk/renting-your-right-to-buy-property-all-you-need-to-know/
Last edited:
Similarly,
Just because MBK is conjecturing, doesn't make that true either.
Again, that's an opinion.
Although that opinion is based on the belief that mbk is in possession of facts, rather than suppositions.
If you couch the "argument" in very defined and limited terms - which lawyers do and, as too, is mbk - you can dictate the answer.
"Never ask a question to which you a. don't know the answer, and b. don't want the answer".
Overall the grand scheme of politics in general though, it's all a nothingness: even if AR has done anything wrong, any number of other MPs have done (and possibly still are doing) far, far worse.
The Observer reports...a Tory MP asked the force to examine whether she gave incorrect information for the electoral register about where she lived in Stockport prior to becoming an MP. Because she listed the house as her primary residence, she did not have to pay the tax. However, her critics have argued she really lived with her former husband, just over a mile away. CGT is payable on second homes.
On Saturday night, it emerged that a former Rayner aide, Matt Finnegan, has written to GMP, contradicting her claims. “There was no doubt in my mind that this was Ms Rayner’s family home where she lived with her then husband, Mark,” his letter states, according to the Sunday Times. “I remember it quite vividly because Ms Rayner was not at home at first and I had to wait for some time in my car before she eventually arrived. It was also memorable in that it was the first and only time I visited her home during the course of my voluntary work for her.”
Asked about pressure on Rayner to publish her tax advice, Jim McMahon, the shadow local government minister, said: “We don’t get many Tory MPs who say if there is wrongdoing found, then they will take the appropriate action and to step aside, you don’t hear Conservatives saying that, and that’s why this is chalk and cheese.”
There remains uncertainty over what exactly GMP is investigating. In a brief statement, it would only say it was looking at “whether any offences have been committed” in the light of material provided by James Daly, the Conservative deputy chairman, who asked them to look at the electoral roll and deeds relating to the sale of her council house. Electoral offences fall under the Representation of the People Act 1983, which states that providing false information to an electoral officer is an offence. It is not clear whether living at two addresses would be considered “false information” since it is not uncommon for people, from students to MPs, to have two residences. The act also has a time limit of 12 months after the offence was committed. A magistrates’ court could extend the deadline for a year in some circumstances. Scott Wortley, a law lecturer at Edinburgh University, said that a police investigation into suspected electoral offences was “completely pointless”.
“Under the Representation of the People Act, any offence committed under that act has to be prosecuted within one year of the commission of the offence,” he said. “In this situation where the alleged events took place a decade ago, it seems a waste of time and resources to carry out an investigation for something that can’t be prosecuted.” It is also unclear that not paying capital gains tax on a second home would amount to an offence. Dan Neidle, a tax expert who raised questions about whether or not Rayner should have paid capital gains tax on her Stockport home, has said that “calls for prosecutions for tax evasion” were “plain daft”. In 2015 she sold the Vicarage Road property and Neidle estimates that she may have been liable for no more than £3,500 in CGT, or may not have owed any tax in some circumstances.
On Saturday night, it emerged that a former Rayner aide, Matt Finnegan, has written to GMP, contradicting her claims. “There was no doubt in my mind that this was Ms Rayner’s family home where she lived with her then husband, Mark,” his letter states, according to the Sunday Times. “I remember it quite vividly because Ms Rayner was not at home at first and I had to wait for some time in my car before she eventually arrived. It was also memorable in that it was the first and only time I visited her home during the course of my voluntary work for her.”
Asked about pressure on Rayner to publish her tax advice, Jim McMahon, the shadow local government minister, said: “We don’t get many Tory MPs who say if there is wrongdoing found, then they will take the appropriate action and to step aside, you don’t hear Conservatives saying that, and that’s why this is chalk and cheese.”
There remains uncertainty over what exactly GMP is investigating. In a brief statement, it would only say it was looking at “whether any offences have been committed” in the light of material provided by James Daly, the Conservative deputy chairman, who asked them to look at the electoral roll and deeds relating to the sale of her council house. Electoral offences fall under the Representation of the People Act 1983, which states that providing false information to an electoral officer is an offence. It is not clear whether living at two addresses would be considered “false information” since it is not uncommon for people, from students to MPs, to have two residences. The act also has a time limit of 12 months after the offence was committed. A magistrates’ court could extend the deadline for a year in some circumstances. Scott Wortley, a law lecturer at Edinburgh University, said that a police investigation into suspected electoral offences was “completely pointless”.
“Under the Representation of the People Act, any offence committed under that act has to be prosecuted within one year of the commission of the offence,” he said. “In this situation where the alleged events took place a decade ago, it seems a waste of time and resources to carry out an investigation for something that can’t be prosecuted.” It is also unclear that not paying capital gains tax on a second home would amount to an offence. Dan Neidle, a tax expert who raised questions about whether or not Rayner should have paid capital gains tax on her Stockport home, has said that “calls for prosecutions for tax evasion” were “plain daft”. In 2015 she sold the Vicarage Road property and Neidle estimates that she may have been liable for no more than £3,500 in CGT, or may not have owed any tax in some circumstances.
Again fair point but I think there is significant problems with AR story that has been called into question by experts in the field and even her aid saying she was lying. So not just MKB forming suppositions.
I have posted more than once that the original incident could have been closed down with minimal fuss but its the coverup and deceit that will catch her out.
I have posted more than once that the original incident could have been closed down with minimal fuss but its the coverup and deceit that will catch her out.
- Joined
- 31 May 2016
- Messages
- 14,486
- Reaction score
- 2,151
- Country
I’ve not said anything that isn’t backed up by information that is in the public domain.
Perhaps you’d care to explain her story?
Because they are civil cases?
Unless I'm missing something, is this (below) what her aide is basing his claim on?
Sponsored Links
