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holmslaw
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If it's fixed wiring/accessories/appliances/etc then Part P applies to it no matter where or how the wiring/accessories/appliances/etc were sourced.So if one goes to local retailer and asks him to make up a "Kit" of parts you will require to install an outside socket then does that not need Part P?
Not true.If the plug was attached then I would agree no Part P.
The plug is irrelevant.However once you expect the user to attach the plug then I would say no different to any other box of parts and it will require Part P.
Good analogy.I can accept a DIY guy breaking the rules. We all at some time will have exceeded the speed limit. However a manufacturer breaking the rules is something else. It's like your boss telling you that you must break speed limits.
No we are not.But thats not what the regs say, we are supposed to blindly follow any manufacturers instructions, no matter how dodgy or dangerous.
holmslaw - you have a long-running campaign going aimed at discrediting the Wiring Regulations.Yes it's more IET bolllerx,
Not to anybody with a modicum of intelligence, and without a perverse desire to use the existence of any perceived flaw as a reason to scorn the entire publication.but thats what the BRB says.
Doesn't it clearly and unequivocally call for good workmanship to be used?The point is there is absolutely no conflict in 134.1 it is a clear unequivocal statement.
Click this then, and your desire will be instantly gratified.So stop giving your opinions of its this or its that, I am not interested in your worthless opinions - how many times do you have to be told.
the socket is fixed,
Yes it is.the socket is fixed,
No it's not.
Fixed equipment. Equipment designed to be fastened to a support or otherwise secured in a specific location.The socket hangs on a bracket that's screwed to the wall. It can be picked up as easily as if it lay on the ground.
It's a bit of a tight squeeze, but you can get 2.5mm² in...* 2.5 mm2 cables are too large for standard 13 A plugs
In that case, a TV mounted on a wall is fixed too.Fixed equipment. Equipment designed to be fastened to a support or otherwise secured in a specific location.The socket hangs on a bracket that's screwed to the wall. It can be picked up as easily as if it lay on the ground.
I never said it wasn't.And the cable is fixed as well.
In that case, a TV mounted on a wall is fixed too.Fixed equipment. Equipment designed to be fastened to a support or otherwise secured in a specific location.The socket hangs on a bracket that's screwed to the wall. It can be picked up as easily as if it lay on the ground.
I never said it wasn't.And the cable is fixed as well.
Quite frankly I see little difference between this plug arrangement and a wall mounted TV (with the cable clipped to the skirting board and architrave to keep it tidy) insofar as they are both connections to fixed electrical equipment.
Of course, the significant difference is that the sockets allow the connection of outdoor appliances. To pretend that that's not notifiable is interpreting part P far more generously than even I would. I see the fact that this manufacturer is allowed to get away with it as vindicating my relaxed interpretation of part P.
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