Fire regs for doors when converting attics

[opps]

Hi all

Went to look at a job today.

The customer mentioned that he plans to convert his attic into a habitable area (currently a 2 story end of terrace). He said he had been granted planning permission. I asked him if he will need to replace door liners and fit self closers (Perkos). He said that no one had mentioned it.

I recall that in the 80's, when my parents converted their attic, they had to fit Perkos and FD30 doors. Have the regs changed since then?

 

[Murdochcat]

The building inspector will have something to say about this

 

[^woody^]

Yes, still require fire doors and strips on the escape route but no self closers required as no one used them. Rules changed back in the 2000's

 

[opps]

Yes, still require fire doors and strips on the escape route but no self closers required as no one used them. Rules changed back in the 2000's

So will new door liners be required?, and if not, would thicker door stops suffice?

Can the strips be mounted in to the doors?

 

[^woody^]

Reference to fire doors includes the lining/frame. Strictly it is a "fire door set", and if the lining is not suitable then the fire door is not a fire door.

It's not a case of adapting a lining or thickening the stops any more, what should happen is reference should be made to the door manufacturer's guidance and that will state what lining and stops are required.

Normally strips can go on the door or the lining

 

[JohnD]

Planning permission is not the same as building regulations.

I expect the client will need both.

Maybe the architect is handling the applications (at extra cost)

Maybe not.

I did my own drawings and application, but it was for simpler work.