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er yes i know.....i was commenting that scarmanga clearly should have given up the solex for some bump and tickle with britt
Good UK combi boiler manufacturers ?
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er yes i know.....i was commenting that scarmanga clearly should have given up the solex for some bump and tickle with britt
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picbits wrote
Wonder what it could be.
My guess is its some kind of temperature control diy wizardry though I suspect picbits thinks its something new that professionals have never came across before.
I hope you are not expecting us to believe that.
Wonder what it could be.
My guess is its some kind of temperature control diy wizardry though I suspect picbits thinks its something new that professionals have never came across before.
I hope you are not expecting us to believe that.
Since boilers are around 90% efficient there simply isn't the scope for further energy savings of any real significance, unless you really have something utterly revolutionary, in which you're selling yourself seriously short!
Realistically I'm surprised even one company is giving you the time of day (Ideal? - they're so technically incompetent when it comes to designing the things they might fall for it). Doesn't it occur to you that your idea has probably occurred to others before you and has already been dropped as unfeasible or impractical?
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Quite possibly.
But it does work and it is worth investigating and if the company I approached decide to drop it with a good reason then I won't lose any sleep over it (unless they suddenly bring out a range of boilers with it on
)Its just something that has been bugging me for a few years since I came up with the idea and something I haven't seen on the market before.
All I've asked from the company is that they have a look at it and see if its feasible. Neither of us have anything to lose apart from a couple of hours of our time.
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You'll get no better answer than if you post your "idea" on this forum.
The combined brain power on this forum will soon let you know whether its feasible or not.
Sharing is much more rewarding than trying to lobby dodgy boiler manufacturers for a one off payment that I think you already know will not happen in a million years.
You'll get no better answer than if you post your "idea" on this forum.
The combined brain power on this forum will soon let you know whether its feasible or not.
Sharing is much more rewarding than trying to lobby dodgy boiler manufacturers for a one off payment that I think you already know will not happen in a million years.
If they decide not to go with the idea then I'll post the full details on here.
And I assure you the manufacturer is a well respected one.
This post wasn't intended to push the idea - just to get peoples recommendations of decent manufacturers so I could approach them.
And I assure you the manufacturer is a well respected one.
This post wasn't intended to push the idea - just to get peoples recommendations of decent manufacturers so I could approach them.
I hope you are not corresponding by telephone or email - you should have a non-disclosure agreement in place before any correspondence.
As for patents - have a look at some boiler manufacturers efforts - they make interesting reading - some very bizzare. Even BG have patented an all plastic recouperator...shame no plastic can take the temperatures though!.
As for patents - have a look at some boiler manufacturers efforts - they make interesting reading - some very bizzare. Even BG have patented an all plastic recouperator...shame no plastic can take the temperatures though!.
Nope - no NDA in place unfortunately.
It would be hard to contest anyway as its easy to pretend that they have thought of the idea previously.
I'm being open and honest with the the manufacturer and so far they have been honest with me. I've had an email with a contact for one of their engineers and acknowledgement that they are interested in the idea and I can progress it with their engineer.
I run my own mail and web servers anyway so all the logs are there with the appropriate times and IP addresses but to be honest with you if they wanted to steal the idea then once disclosed to them there would be little I could do to contest it.
As I said before this was an idea that I spent a fair bit of idle thought time developing but I have not put any money into it and if they did steal it then I wouldn't be any worse off financially than I am at the moment.
My core business is in the automotive datalogging and instrumentation business and this is taking off in a big way so this isn't something I would want to spend too much time patenting and messing about with.
If they screw me over then I will name and shame but thats as far as I'd take it. They seem like a good company to deal with - I've heard nothing but good things about them and they are pretty well respected in the heating industry.
Time will tell - it may be a non-starter but I've got to the stage where I wanted to be at now (albeit without an NDA).
It would be hard to contest anyway as its easy to pretend that they have thought of the idea previously.
I'm being open and honest with the the manufacturer and so far they have been honest with me. I've had an email with a contact for one of their engineers and acknowledgement that they are interested in the idea and I can progress it with their engineer.
I run my own mail and web servers anyway so all the logs are there with the appropriate times and IP addresses but to be honest with you if they wanted to steal the idea then once disclosed to them there would be little I could do to contest it.
As I said before this was an idea that I spent a fair bit of idle thought time developing but I have not put any money into it and if they did steal it then I wouldn't be any worse off financially than I am at the moment.
My core business is in the automotive datalogging and instrumentation business and this is taking off in a big way so this isn't something I would want to spend too much time patenting and messing about with.
If they screw me over then I will name and shame but thats as far as I'd take it. They seem like a good company to deal with - I've heard nothing but good things about them and they are pretty well respected in the heating industry.
Time will tell - it may be a non-starter but I've got to the stage where I wanted to be at now (albeit without an NDA).
Nope - run my own business.
The name gives it away
Been getting some prototypes out to people over the past couple of years and have just started on getting some of the more fun stuff sorted.
well, hope it is nothing like this: http://www.zenexenergy.com/docs/gassaverdemo.htm
or fitting a sterling engine to the boiler as per this: http://www.whispergen.com/main/acwhispergen/
or pre-heating the water before it goes in to the boiler as it done before.
right...i look forward to be amazed, i hope it is free energy or having a cold fusion boiler or something mind boggling
or fitting a sterling engine to the boiler as per this: http://www.whispergen.com/main/acwhispergen/
or pre-heating the water before it goes in to the boiler as it done before.
right...i look forward to be amazed, i hope it is free energy or having a cold fusion boiler or something mind boggling
Several boilers makers at the show were pretending that they could use "free" energy to preheat the combi inlet water. Since you have already paid for the gas I dont see how that could be free!
Interesting that most all used the same preheat device.
Tony
Interesting that most all used the same preheat device.
Tony
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