Hot water system help, i think

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Ok guys and gals I need your help and advice. I moved into a new to me (1930s) house in feb. Luckily we’ve had a mild summer and winter and so the gas bills haven’t been too bad. Now when he weathers turned chilly the heatings on and were cold. Heating comes on at about 4:30pm and the front room isn’t warm until about 9pm ish.

So the rad in the front room (furthest away from the boiler) only got hot at the top. I took this to be possibly a blocked rad. Took it off and flushed it through. Got some black crud out of it and back on. Still the same. I then gave up and asked a heating “engineer” to pop round yesterday. He diagnosed the problem as a sticky trv valve. Drained the system and fitted a new one (plus a few more downstairs) the water while draining down the system didn’t look too black or anything so I thought nothing else of it.

Nowthen heres a bit of additional info that may be useful

A few months ago I removed a rad from the bedroom. Accidentally (not having had drain off valves before) I drained some of the system off instead of the rad. We had 2 days of no heating till I called an engineer out as the system was air locked. He diagnosed the problem as a loop above the diverting valve as shown here. So this time I asked him to fit a vent so we could bleed it and refil

See in this photo.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/...6101692336468939074&oid=108267992033991783465

Ok so this was done and se start filling up the system again after the TRVs are installed. Can we refill it? Can we buggery. After half an hour of faffing it was decided to “back fill” using a hosepipe to one of the radiator take offs. Another half hour + later we had all the rads with some water in them but it took another hour for the boiler to fire and warm the rads though. Like there was a massive air lock in the boiler and it was tripping out.

Once it got going last night we had a warm radiator in th front room about 2 hours after the boiler kicked in. this is the best its been. However the engineer is suggesting we now try a new pump to see if we can improve things. This makes sense to me but what are your thoughts?

So now we have heating! Yay! But I still need to be able to take the rads off etc to decorate. At the moment im not confident we can do this.

So looking at our hot water system and its got me baffled. Thisis how I think tis looking.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/...6101916247516068930&oid=108267992033991783465

but ive got no idea what this valve is for?
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/...6101913821000899714&oid=108267992033991783465

more photos here but it’s a right pain not knowing whats what.

https://plus.google.com/photos/108267992033991783465/albums/6101913436219624961

can anyone shed any light?

The heating engineer was almost on the verge of lets rip it all out and start again!

Help!
 
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You've got a nice watch and a pumped shower ......... :confused:
 
hi guys

ive had another look and this is more representitive of the system.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/...6102309642662970098&oid=108267992033991783465

ive balanced the rads (not properly) to get a roughly even distribution of heat around the house.

the boiler only kicks in for 1 min at a time before switching off for several mins and then back on again. Im presuming that theres no flow from the cw tank as the pipe is magnetic at the join. however the rads and hot water are hot.

no idea what that valve is for. ive cracked it open a small amount and it doesnt seem to make any difference (its one of these inline isolating valves.
 
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A better line drawing ;) The ?Vent should have a manual/auto vent on it -not go over the feed tank . That bizarre loop with the air vent fitted should be removed - the pipe could easily go down below the 3 way valve . The cold feed ( possibly blocked ) should go into the suction side of the pump with a vent nearby-that one should go over the f+e tank. I`m afraid your pretty much have to rip it out :cry:
 
the vent goes into the fe tank in the loft.

the bend thing is strange ill give you that and needs removing.

the cw feed is magnetic as it joins the return from the rads. im guessing this means its blocked? unfortunately we cant get into chop it all out as its in the wall. im not sure what to do.
 

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