The point is, the bloody homeowner has the choice not the state. Of course listed buildings are covered by Building Regs, if you don't like the listing applied to your property you shouldn't buy it.
Because they don't affect the appearance of a property.Ok so why does the state force the homeowner to have compliant gas or electrical work carried out, surely it's their choice too
Is it not the homeowners choice to fit pvc instead of timber?I worded my bit about building regs wrongly... for that I apologise ... building regs doesn't cover Pvc in Listed buildings as you are not allowed to use it and you have to abide by keeping thre building ' as is ' therefore you are covered by the ' replacing ' like for like '
It is not the homeowners choice when you are replacing wooden windows with butt hinges with PVC though , as you cannot replicate the way a wooden window opens with friction stays therefore this is where the competent persons schemes come in and you are required to alter the style of the window to allow for fire escape , usually resulting in sashes at 600mm ( edge of frame to centre of mullion )because manufacturers won't fit fire egress hinges in sashes smaller than this.
There are specific dimensions:
Fire escape windows must provide an unobstructed opening of at least 0.33m² with aminimum dimension of 450mm in height or width. The lowest part of the windowshould also be 800-1100mm from the floor.
The minimum 450mm size means clear opening, so if you opened the sash and measured the gap between frame and sash that got to be at least as big as 450mm.
I worded my bit about building regs wrongly... for that I apologise ... building regs doesn't cover Pvc in Listed buildings as you are not allowed to use it and you have to abide by keeping thre building ' as is ' therefore you are covered by the ' replacing ' like for like '
It is not the homeowners choice when you are replacing wooden windows with butt hinges with PVC though , as you cannot replicate the way a wooden window opens with friction stays therefore this is where the competent persons schemes come in and you are required to alter the style of the window to allow for fire escape , usually resulting in sashes at 600mm ( edge of frame to centre of mullion )because manufacturers won't fit fire egress hinges in sashes smaller than this.
Only if the conservation officer permits them, if he does not they will not be acceptable.Residence 9 PVC has been allowed in listed building and was designed specifically for them.
Your inspector was correct in his stance: Item 2.8 https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...chment_data/file/485420/BR_PDF_AD_B1_2013.pdfWhere is this piece taken from?
We had an opening calculated at 0.38m2 which an inspector failed due to the 450mm clearance ruling not being the case on both height and width
His book of regs stated clearance must be 450mm on both width and height
Where is this piece taken from?
We had an opening calculated at 0.38m2 which an inspector failed due to the 450mm clearance ruling not being the case on both height and width
His book of regs stated clearance must be 450mm on both width and height
with aminimum dimension of 450mm in height or width.
Your not far off at all Notch
This is that window:
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The loft one will have 3 slightly wider (650mm) windows and be the same style. I could easily climb out of that one.
The key is the 'or'. The minimum 450mm size must be one of the dimensions, whether it be horizontal or vertical. So a window could be portrait or landscape orientation. It must also be a min of.33msquare.
The measurement is the clear dimension, so if the sash is in the way slightly when open that needs to be taken into consideration.
The approved document says '450mm high and 450mm wide', it does not say or.Some regs say clearance must be 450mm both in width and height.
Others say 450mm on the width OR height is fine if 0.33 is also achieved
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