J.C.M(the Brazilian)
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If I'm considered to be a suicide bomber I don't mind taking a few bullets to the head. Maybe someone could stun me instead?
You don't seem to have grasped any understanding in to why bombers are likely to be treated in this way.
ah what a good idea to put electricty through someone that is thought to be a suicide bomber. If he had of been that would have worked well on something that is detonated by electrical current
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Yes "if" is the key word here.
Their was no evidence to suggest he was a suicide bomber.
Just misguided judgements made by the bungling idiots in the met.
And given that their was no evidence then a stun gun would have been reasonable and JCM would still be alive today.
Yes "if" is the key word here.
Their was no evidence to suggest he was a suicide bomber.
Just misguided judgements made by the bungling idiots in the met.
And given that their was no evidence then a stun gun would have been reasonable and JCM would still be alive today.
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So if the SAS terminate a suspect they'll advertise it if they shoot the wrong bloke? Is that your argument?
And you simply admit to having no idea how to identify a suspect any more than the police do? What are you actually saying here? You don't know and they don't know? Hardly surprising the good guy gets it occasionally then is it?
Balenza: Get a grip, if you keep writing personal nonsense like the above all that will happen is that the post will be locked and rightly so.
The fact is that a mistake was made by the intelligence services and the wrong man was identified as the target ... From that point forward there was only one possible outcome ... The one which happened.
Surely you cannot expect the police to attempt to tazer a man they believe to be a suicide bomber packed with explosives on his way to detonate himself
Unfortunate I agree, and lessons need to be learnt so that the same mistake doesn't happen again but mistakes do happen and bleating on about whether the guy should have been killed with one bullet to the head or 5 makes no sense at all to me.
We should be looking at why an innocent man was targeted in the first place and leave the officers on the ground who actually killed him alone ... They were not to blame here.
Joe-90 wrote: Don't expect any more responses from me to your posts on this subject ... Pointless.
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The fact is that a mistake was made by the intelligence services and the wrong man was identified as the target ... From that point forward there was only one possible outcome ... The one which happened.
Surely you cannot expect the police to attempt to tazer a man they believe to be a suicide bomber packed with explosives on his way to detonate himself
Unfortunate I agree, and lessons need to be learnt so that the same mistake doesn't happen again but mistakes do happen and bleating on about whether the guy should have been killed with one bullet to the head or 5 makes no sense at all to me.
We should be looking at why an innocent man was targeted in the first place and leave the officers on the ground who actually killed him alone ... They were not to blame here.
Joe-90 wrote:
Errmm ... Yes, what are you expecting, this is a DIY forum not MI5 uncovered.
Don't expect any more responses from me to your posts on this subject ... Pointless.MW
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i agree.. death, war, guns and bombs are barbaric, but once you've decided that someone is about to blow up tens/hundreds of innocent people, then 1, 5 or even 100 bullets is perfectly fine if you are protecting your own.
The question here is in identifying this guy as a terrorist, not what you do to him. And this guy, for me, didn't help himself... and i don't know all the details, none of us ever will, but if a copper shouts at me to get on the ground, then unless i've had 15 pints and feel like i can take on the world, i get on the ground...
These coppers were doing their job and should be acknowledge as highly skilled armed officers - no civis were injured even though 5 rounds were fired...
But i do feel for JCDm and his family.... he was in the wrong place, at the wrong time, and did the wrong thing... certainly not a death sentence... but on that day in particular, what could the police do?
The question here is in identifying this guy as a terrorist, not what you do to him. And this guy, for me, didn't help himself... and i don't know all the details, none of us ever will, but if a copper shouts at me to get on the ground, then unless i've had 15 pints and feel like i can take on the world, i get on the ground...
These coppers were doing their job and should be acknowledge as highly skilled armed officers - no civis were injured even though 5 rounds were fired...
But i do feel for JCDm and his family.... he was in the wrong place, at the wrong time, and did the wrong thing... certainly not a death sentence... but on that day in particular, what could the police do?
The issue isn't whether he was or wasn't a terrorist it's the ease with which someone totally innocent can be labelled one,it's almost a free ticket to go and shoot whoever you like, " oh sorry sarge, thought he was a terrorist"
"well you should be more careful next time, bullets don't come cheap you know, just use the gun butt after the third bullet next time lad."
"ok sarge, is it lunchtime yet?"
"well you should be more careful next time, bullets don't come cheap you know, just use the gun butt after the third bullet next time lad."
"ok sarge, is it lunchtime yet?"
it depends on whether the person is apprehended or not as JCM was manhandled to the floor by several officers of the constabulary and then shot I think there could have been slight over exuberence by the boys in blue.
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