New consumer unit required to pass EICR? (due to changes since 2018)

[ahlondon]

Last EICR passed in 2018 but will it again with these observations noted back then for this rental property?

Absence of RCD (411.4.9; 411.5.2; 531.2) circuits 1,2,3 unlikely to be used to supply mobile equipment outdoors (C3)
Plastic CCU does not Conform to Amd3 (C3)

 

[EFLImpudence]

Is the property rented?

 

[ahlondon]

Is the property rented?

Yes.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Then, while strictly speaking, C3 items are only "improvement recommended" therefore do not have to be rectified for EICR purposes, where the new private rented sector landlords' requirements are concerned the property will have to comply with the latest electrical regulations so those items will have to be rectified.

It's not supposed to make sense.

 

[ahlondon]

Then, while strictly speaking, C3 items are only "improvement recommended" therefore do not have to be rectified for EICR purposes, where the new private rented sector landlords' requirements are concerned the property will have to comply with the latest electrical regulations so those items will have to be rectified.

It's not supposed to make sense.

Are you referring to the plastic CCU, lack of RCD or both? I know and EICR pass for rental property can pass with plastic CCUs can pass if everything else complies.

 

[Murdochcat]

Then, while strictly speaking, C3 items are only "improvement recommended" therefore do not have to be rectified for EICR purposes, where the new private rented sector landlords' requirements are concerned the property will have to comply with the latest electrical regulations so those items will have to be rectified.

It's not supposed to make sense.

They do not have to comply with the 18th edition. They have to be inspected to the 18th edition and these observations are C3’s

That said I would recommend you get a new RCBO unit installed with SPD - but you don’t have to

 

[EFLImpudence]

Are you referring to the plastic CCU, lack of RCD or both?

Both.

I know and EICR pass for rental property can pass with plastic CCUs can pass if everything else complies.

How do you know that?

A plastic (i.e. NOT non-combustible or enclosed in non-combustible material) CU does not meet the latest wiring regulations with which a rented property must comply.

 

[Murdochcat]

A plastic (i.e. NOT non-combustible or enclosed in non-combustible material) CU does not meet the latest wiring regulations with which a rented property must comply.

Wrong

 

[EFLImpudence]

They do not have to comply with the 18th edition. They have to be inspected to the 18th edition and these observations are C3’s

That said I would recommend you get a new RCBO unit installed with SPD - but you don’t have to

Why, then, do you not similarly recommend a metal CU be fitted?

 

[Murdochcat]

Why, then, do you not similarly recommend a metal CU be fitted?

Can’t say I’ve tried to buy a plastic cu for a long time, so why even mention it ?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Last EICR passed in 2018 but will it again with these observations noted back then for this rental property?

Absence of RCD (411.4.9; 411.5.2; 531.2) circuits 1,2,3 unlikely to be used to supply mobile equipment outdoors (C3)
Plastic CCU does not Conform to Amd3 (C3)

 

[ahlondon]

Wrong

Sounds like you agree a plastic unit can pass? This is based on an electrician giving me an EICR for a plastic unit in 2021, quotes I've had from others who have said a plastic one does not always need to be upgraded and some discussion on here where has it been debated and said it is not a regulatory requirement for landlords. I accept things may have changed again since 2021, but just want to be clear with my understanding so I can approach an electrician in the know! Thanks.

 

[Murdochcat]

Download this and read it

https://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/media/tx5i50ao/best-practice-guide-4-issue-7.pdf

Interestingly debate on here is often by people who aren’t sparks ……

 

[Murdochcat]

OP please bear in mind you are 1 year overdue to get this EICR done too

And I’m not aware of anything in 2021 changing

 

[ahlondon]

OP please bear in mind you are 1 year overdue to get this EICR done too

Thanks. To be clear, a plastic unit can potentially pass but how about the RCD observation noted in my original post?