Removal of BT Cable from lounge to bedroom

[Longshanks]

Hi Everyone

I have an old BT wire running from the main faceplate (on window sill in lounge) and running straight up the outside wall before disappearing into the bedroom windowsill. I think it was the old extension wire which has long since been replaced by internal sockets etc. I also replaced my BT faceplate with an ADSL version to boost internet speed some time ago and was advised to remove some of the uncessary connections at that time (bell wire etc).

I just need confirmation that I can remove the old wire running outside the wall which I'm 99.9% certain doesn't perform any function anyway.

Can provide piccies if required.

Many thanks

Longshanks

 

[Infidel]

When you say face plate do you mean the NTE socket or is it and old screw type or other junction box.
Could be your lead in if your overhead fed, one way for sure is find an end you can disconnect remember where they came from on the block, and disconnect them if everything still works fine ok, if not put them back.

 

[Longshanks]

Hi

I refer to the main socket where the BT line enters the property. Our house is about 30 years old so it wouldn't have been that ancient but I replaced the top bit with a specialist face plate from ADSL nation.

Cable is fed from underground not telegraph pole.

Probably best if I take some piccies.

Watch this space.

 

[Longshanks]

Hi Hope these pictures clarify the situation somewhat (included in album as don’t know how to include in message!).

You will see the Master socket which now has an ADSL faceplate instead of the old BT one. I was advised by ADSL and many on my ISP’s user forum that I could disconnect all the wires from the faceplate and just connect the two in my Pro Plus wire as shown. This then runs internally to the upstairs bedroom and another ADSL extension socket which is where my modem is plugged in.

You will also see that the faceplate has the filtered phone socket and unfiltered broadband socket so there’s no need for additional filters etc.
The phones and broadband are fine and dandy but I’m still left with the outside ugly grey BT cable which leads from the Master socket and travels up the outside wall to then disappear into the bedroom window sill.

It was obviously supplying an old BT “wired in” extension which no longer exists. It’s impossible for me to determine which of the now redundant blue wires which you see in the Master socket relates to this extension cable.

I can’t provide any more info. This situation can’t be unique and I just need someone to tell me I can cut the grey cable visible between the top of the downstairs window before it disappears into the upstairs window sill. (There is no continuation of this cable in the bedroom).

Your advice would be much appreciated.

Longshanks

 

[JOHNBOY42]

pictures have gone awol

 

[big-all]

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[JOHNBOY42]

If you say its now being used I would certaily remove it as this is old cable twhich was used for internal and is liable to go faulty causing noise/slow adsl....you have not showed how its terminated on the nte it could be teed on with the screws or crimped

 

[Infidel]

It was obviously supplying an old BT “wired in” extension which no longer exists. It’s impossible for me to determine which of the now redundant blue wires which you see in the Master socket relates to this extension cable.

Well from what I can see the blue wires in the nte backbox are actually jumper wires probably crimped to the ug feed to your house and terminated under the screw terminals. The wire you photoed is indeed an old grey 4w when you take the face plate off undo the 2 remaining screws and have a look at the backbox should be 2 cross head screws with 1 wire terminated to A and 1 to B . If your grey wire is there (wires will be blue orange green brown) and not connected to anything rip it out.

 

[Longshanks]

Hi

When you say "if your grey wire is there and not connected to anything"..

Doesn't it have to be connected in some way as it was once supplying an extension to the upstairs bedroom and I've only ever fiddled with the wires connecting to the faceplate and not the wires going into the master socket. I'm probably being naive but I would expect it be connected somewhere.

My main fear is disconnecting the main incoming wire rather than this one!!

I will have a lokk at the back box as suggested and supply some more pictures before doing anything drastic.

Thanks

L

 

[punchy]

Hi

When you say "if your grey wire is there and not connected to anything"..

Doesn't it have to be connected in some way as it was once supplying an extension to the upstairs bedroom and I've only ever fiddled with the wires connecting to the faceplate and not the wires going into the master socket. I'm probably being naive but I would expect it be connected somewhere.

My main fear is disconnecting the main incoming wire rather than this one!!

I will have a lokk at the back box as suggested and supply some more pictures before doing anything drastic.

Thanks

L

Hi, If you have nothing on the end in your upstairs room then cut away. The main BT socket is 2 screws and is not polarity sensitive so east on / off. Where is your router connected?

 

[simonpolly]

What kind of cable have you used for the extension,it looks screened to me ?.This can cause noise problems if its not earthed instead of screening the cable i think it has the opposite effect .

 

[Monkeh]

What kind of cable have you used for the extension,it looks screened to me ?.This can cause noise problems if its not earthed instead of screening the cable i think it has the opposite effect .

Indeed, the cable ADSLNation sell is screened. Of course they don't tell you to earth it (and there's no place to earth it in a normal box on either end!).

 

[Longshanks]

Hi

Router (aka modem??) is connected to ADSL extension socket in bedroom. Are you saying the "screening" is likely to increase noise on phone line when they claim Pro Plus wire has the opposite effect?

Also when you say just cut away the cable would it be advisable to try and identify where it is connected to the Master socket (not sure how as when it leaves the Master Socket it disappears in the window frame until appearing above the downstairs window) and then disconnect it.

Could this cable be giving me some noise interference which could affect phone and broadband speed?

Many thanks for your time.

L

 

[simonpolly]

All i can say is i once used some of this cable as i had no other internal cable with me,i had to run the cable through a false ceiling past some fluorescent lights,when i connected the socket to the cable the line was very noisy,i disconnected it and the noise went.

 

[Longshanks]

Hi

Many thanks for your previous reponse about my grey extension wire that I want to and need to remove. I will remove the face plate and the two remaining screws as you indicate to expose the main BT line and wires etc. Just to be clear though shouldn't the extension cable be connected in there somewhere as it then runs inside the window frame and outside the house before disappearing in the upstairs window sill (where it then ends!!).

I can probably just cut the grey cable with clippers but wonder if it would eb better to disconenct it before removing. However, if I do that I would like some reassurance that I won't cut the main BT incoming cable.

Many thanks

Longshanks