YALE HSA6200 ALARM PROBLEM WITH KEYPAD

[jambogq]

I fitted a Yale HSA6200 Alarm system 4 months ago and everything was ok till now
I set the alam and went out and on my return went to my keypad,entered code but when I walked pass a sensor the Siren went off....

I then tried to enter my code again but the keypad does not work (no lights when numbers are pressd)

I had to stop the box ringing by pulling one of the cables on the siren

I have replaced the battery on the keypad but still doesnt work
Tried to call yale but on hold for 30 mis every time I try

Does anyone know what the problem is or should I take the kit back to the supplier

Regards

 

[Alarm]

Did you have any unusual displays or sounds recently?
They could have been a clue to batteries dying.

When you came in did the entry timer start? What exactly happened?
Did you not notice the code did not work?


Pulling out wires is never a good idea is it.

You most likely hit the wrong code tripped the system and then panicked.
It then locked you out ( If they do that !!!)

Put the wires back, check all fuses if there.
Read the manual again.

 

[yaleguy3]

I can tell you exactly what your problem is.

The yale keypad can be fragile if dropped.
It can also be damaged when changing batteries.

If you open the keypad by removing the two screws you will see the battery holder. I am almost certain that the solder holding the battery holder to the circuit board will have failed.

There is an easy fix. Heat up the tip of an eating knife if you have a gas cooker or use a cigarette lighter and then hold the hot knife tip against the solder tab that has come loose.

If you are more proficient and have the kit use a soldering iron and some solder.

 

[yaleguy3]

Well there you go then,

A simple fix, use a knife and a ciggie lighter to fix something supposed to give protection.


Thats the funniest thing said on here all month.

Going to post this on a pro site.

ROFLMFAO

If you cannot understand the concept that heating up a soldered joint will fix it again. Fine go and show your ignorance to the professionals.

The problem is dropping the keypad on the floor or pulling the batteries out instead of using a small screwdriver to lever them out. This fix will get the alarm working again.

The keypad is only to send an arm and disarm signal to the box. Once armed the alarm will operate properly if an intruder enters the home even if you decide to take the battery out of the keypad and smash it to pieces.

The crucial part of the alarm is its activation when set. As long as the keypad will do this the the alarm will do its job.

 

[bernardgreen]

The yale keypad can be fragile if dropped.
It can also be damaged when changing batteries.

That does not inspire confidence in the equipment

I am almost certain that the solder holding the battery holder to the circuit board will have failed.

That is acceptable in a cheaply built remote control unit for a TV but for an item of security equipment it is far from acceptable.

There is an easy fix. Heat up the tip of an eating knife if you have a gas cooker or use a cigarette lighter and then hold the hot knife tip against the solder tab that has come loose.

Ruin a knife and have a very small chance of repairing the joint.

How hot should the knife be, red hot ?

How will the use of knife prevent oxidised solder ( non conductive ) getting into the "repaired" joint and leaving the joint weakened to fail at the next battery change of not before. (t hat is assuming the "repair" does reconnect contact to PCB.

You suggest using a soldering iron and solder. That is the only sensible way to make an effective and reliable repair to a soldered joint.

 

[yaleguy3]

Have you seen inside a keypad - do you know the shape and size of the tabs - have you seen the break and the residual solder which when heated rejoins the tab to the board?
Have you practiced or fixed one yourself?

thought not!

 

[bernardgreen]

If you cannot understand the concept that heating up a soldered joint will fix it again. Fine go and show your ignorance to the professionals.

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That concept is in-valid. Heating a failed soldered joint only melts the solder. This may, repeat MAY, reconnect the items soldered together but amount of wetting ( of the items by solder ) will be less than before and any corrosion in the joint is un-likely to be removed by simply heating the solder to melting point. Over heating may result in the copper track of the PCB detatching from the board and that can destroy the joint totally.

 

[yaleguy3]

Whilst I do understand your concerns about fixing the joint by heating the existing solder again it has worked twice for me.
The knife isn't heated 'red hot' but hot enough so that when you place it onto the tab (not the solder) you can see the solder underneath liquify. Takes just a couple of seconds.

Of course the better repair is to use the solder and soldering iron as I also suggetsed. However the first quick fix will get the system working again without specialist tools and equipment and can be very useful particularly if you have set the alarm and then been unable to disarm it. Otherwise you would keep triggering the alarm all night long to the annoyance of your neighbours.