Zion and the Art of Armageddon

Bibi the genocidal maniac has said that they will fight with their fingernails if necessary...

Will he lead by example? :rolleyes:

All arms sales to Israel should be stopped...

Including from the UK, which whilst it only accounts for a small percentage they are vital components...

The bombs being dropped on innocent civilians are dropped from bomb racks/release mechanisms made in Brighton.

No racks/mechanisms = less dead innocent civilians!
 
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Benjamin also reckons he has enough bombs. The pause could be a political stunt. Mention of 2000kg is interesting as one load sent was 1800kg. Nothing like precision bangs is there. I wonder what the difference in the explosions are? The 2000 might be reporter rounding. A reduction in bombing will at some point cause more troop losses.

At a rather young age I noticed a book of essays in the library by people like Trotsky and Molotov etc. Can't remember who produced the one on terrorism. The argument was that eventually the population of the effected country will blame their own gov. Well that happened in Israel pretty quickly but for reasons outside the scope of early 20th century thinking. Thinking moves on. Campbell touched on another aspect. It brings things to a head. He mentions the IRA. Along comes an ex MOSAD head who says Israel has fallen into HAMAS's trap. What he means is loosing the war of words. The reason for that is a huge number of people in the world now know far more about what is going on there. Lots don't like war full stop. Then the side issues associated with it and civilian deaths etc. Deaths - modern warfare against inferior forces. Politics ensures that certain views will be held even when full details are available. They'd rather they were not. They may even provide miss info WOM's etc an example. Even give a weapons inspector such a hard time he kills himself.

MOSAD man made another interesting point. Israel has a Palestinian hero locked up who is definitely 2 state. He points out that they would follow and trust him An ideal political head. CIA and MOSAD are the experts on aspects like that - who to pick. :( Not that it has worked well in Iraq. It went totally awol in Syria. So this bloke might be trusted for as long as it become clear that they wont get what they want. Say pre 67 boarders. That seems to be an Arab League view.

The genocide aspects are not always being used in the correct way. Civilian war deaths are not clearly linked to it. Apartheid is a different subject but some of it's effects relate to genocide. South Africa going to the court with support from a number of countries. Simple. Some parts of the world are cheesed off with western powers. More people numerically than you might think. They want to get on with their own problems which may not fit in with the powers views.
 
fillyboy said:
www.jpost.com

UNRWA caught stealing, selling humanitarian aid - UN Watch

According to the report, Palestinians claimed that staff working for the UN agency “have their homes full of aid.”
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The UN agency for Palestinian refugees has temporarily closed its East Jerusalem headquarters after “Israeli extremists” set fire to the perimeter following weeks of repeated attacks. “This evening, Israeli residents set fire twice to the perimeter of the Unrwa headquarters in occupied East Jerusalem,” the head of the agency, Philippe Lazzarini, tweeted, lamenting that it was the second attack on the compound in a matter of days. He said: “A crowd accompanied by armed men were witnessed outside the compound chanting ‘Burn down the United Nations’.”

The garundia.comma

The UN will go the same way as the League of Nations at this rate...while Fascists raise their ugly snouts, sniffing fresh opportunities: coincidence?
 
ellal said:
Bibi the genocidal maniac has said that they will fight with their fingernails if necessary...

Will he lead by example? :rolleyes:

All arms sales to Israel should be stopped...

Including from the UK, which whilst it only accounts for a small percentage they are vital components...

The bombs being dropped on innocent civilians are dropped from bomb racks/release mechanisms made in Brighton.

No racks/mechanisms = less dead innocent civilians!
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Jobs / livelihoods depend on them bomb racks
 
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Filly's post UNRWA. It's pretty clear from AlJ videos that some strange aid sales go on. What's unusual, it's a war and if some one can get their hands on more aid than they need some will sell it. This has been happening in Ukraine.

Take a number of people and there will always be crooks and opportunists around. All in UNRWA - grow up. Some stuff such as veg need to be paid for. Small market with duff looking veg. Proper ones and the stuff looks good. Same with tins and a number of things.

Air drops might cause an escalation of this sort of thing. Some people elsewhere probably can't carry a huge sack of flour.
 
transam said:
Jobs / livelihoods depend on them bomb racks
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Innocent lives are being lost because of those bomb racks...

But I guess you don't understand that...

Profit before people it seems is your mantra! (n)
 
ellal said:
Innocent lives are being lost because of those bomb racks...

But I guess you don't understand that...

Profit before people it seems is your mantra! (n)
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Well I would not go so far as to say that

But such things need to be considered

People need to pay there mortgages and
Other bills

Than there are holidays ect ect to budget for
 
transam said:
What genocide ??
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Well, less than 20 years ago the population of Gaza was around 800,000, today it's 2.2 million.

Sounds like some sort of 'reverse genocide', I suspect the Jews are firing rockets filled with semen into Gaza, only explanation I can think of.
 
The camps are divided between five regions: Gaza Strip: The Gaza Strip has eight official and no unofficial refugee camps, and 1,221,110 registered refugees. West Bank: The West Bank has 19 official and four unofficial refugee camps, and 741,409 registered refugees.

The areas that take a lot of the hits and in the west bank the areas where Israel makes it's IDF raids.

However the Israeli police were used on the bediouns I mentioned. As per the IDF they take the bulldozers. In this case there was a 1st as far as broadcasts are concerned one of Filly's happy Israeli Palastinians popped up and said something must be done about this. An MP. The people in the west bank camp are well used to repairing services after IDF raids.
 
America admits Israel may have breached International law using their weapons - but await further evidence.

Translation - we know they've indiscriminately murdered civilians and targeted families suspected of connections to Hamas but need to hear Netanyahu's excuses before we order the correct amount of whitewash to cover up the mess he's made.
 
Odds said:
Translation - we know they've indiscriminately murdered civilians and targeted families suspected of connections to Hamas but need to hear Netanyahu's excuses before we order the correct amount of whitewash to cover up the mess he's made.
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They have pointed out that in several areas they have shouted at Benjamin and there has been changes in the right direction but but not enough. Most interesting one in terms of war crimes is aid especially when normal operation coped with 500 truck. Then the 1/2 load aspect which may have gone now, hard to say.

Current excuse for none is road damage. Miles of trucks, Rafar crossing - active military area making aid tricky. Israeli citizens are blocking one route in. Stones in the roads and far more of them. No signs of any control. There has been in the past.

Water in some parts - crowds using a single source all day to get their hands on it. Desalination figures which needs power. Other water - Israel is rather "careful" about it and always has been. Domestic piping - once bombed leaks all over the place. Lots of water tanks used in some areas. Bombs cause problems with electricity as well.

A thorough investigation at some point - probably needs a security council motion to be passed. It's noticeable that the US take rather a long time to decide that an action is a war crime. Some we have heard about recently are not recent.

A pundit mentioned that it took rather a long time to decide to take action about S African apartheid. Last to join in. Pointing out that there is a lot of policy inertia in the senate etc.
 
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Bit more on Rafar. Evac order thought to cause around ~80,000 to move. 2nd one ordered, similar numbers although the number the UN thinks will be involved is larger. Also a similar order in another area not in Rafar.

Where to. Sort of beach holiday that already has a number there and the Khan Yunis area. No services etc in either area and UNRWA doing what they can to help them. They managed to get a quantity of fuel in. Other aid ????? Doesn't sound too good.

Israeli plan - sections at a time ???????????????????

Israeli estimate 300,000 civilians moved,
 
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