Soil pipe adaptor for asbestos cement.

[muv]

Chaps.....I'm ripping my bathroom out in a few weeks and everything will be going back in a new position.

This involves changing the soil pipe outside to accomodate all the new waste pipes, no problems with that but currently I have a what looks like a asbestos cement soilpipe. I need to cut this about 150mm above the ground, is there an adaptor available to connect the new pipe with the old?

I really dont want to start breaking up the concrete around the pipe and renewing it underground.

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• muv
• 26 Feb 2013
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[ianmcd]

If it really is asbestos you shouldnt be cutting it in any way

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Flexseal adaptor should hopefully seal it or a McAlpine DC-1 would be my choice, it'll fit inside the existing pipe removing any danger of an external leak.

Be careful cutting the asbestos, mask is a must as you dont want to be breathing in any dust. Dampen it down as you cut to reduce dust hazard anyway. Not sure how the asbestos will cut, hopefully should be ok, but if it splits down the section you want to keep then it'll have to be renewed.

 

[Whitespirit66]

Yes, damp down well and use a hacksaw or similar to cut. Avoid power tools to keep dust to a min.

 

[muv]

Thanks for he reply Hugh, I think you helped me before when my old boiler ran out of oil........new one being fitted Monday

Yep mask, goggles, full paper suit, hose in one hand and hacksaw in the other, nice and slowly. I'm not going to start attacking it with a grinder.

I'll google the adaptor.

cheers

 

[ianmcd]

This site is great if an Op asks how to repair a gas appliance they get all the Gas police jumping in and saying you cant do it unless you are Gas safe registered yet you can get advice freely on how to disturb asbestos which is far more dangerous but the good thing is you wont die immediately it could take up to 30 years before you die from what you have been advised to do

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Cutting an asbestos pipewith a hacksaw, outside, provided the work area is kept damp, and the OP uses correct PPE, and the risks are minimal, if not non existent IMO. Asbestos fibres can be found naturally in the air, it is a natural product, not manufactured. Personally I wouldn't put this scenario anywhere near the same level as gas work, there is no risk of an explosion, no risk of a gas leak, and no risk of CO poisoning, and no risk to others.

There is tonnes of bonded asbestos in various guises up and down the country, most farms have a cluster of bonded asbestos clad barns! Whilst I appreciate the dangers of disturbing asbestos in a confined space must be taken seriously, a few minutes externally with sensible PPE being used cannot present the same level of danger. I had a licenced waste carrier remove a bonded asbestos garage a couple of years back. 3 blokes and a large hammer, they simply broke it into pieces, loaded it onto their truck and took it to an approved landfill site. Most Local Authorities offer a free service for disposal of small quantities of bonded asbestos for householders, I cannot see this being allowed if the stuff was that dangerous it would be legally only to be handled by specialist contractors.

 

[Breesey]

Guidance on working with asbestos in this sort of way can be found at www.aic.org.uk
Care and common sense are most important, of course.

 

[doitall]

There is virtually zero problem with asbestos cement, so take the best precautions.

However an internal adapter is not suitable as there is no strength in the pipe.

Buy a fernco type connector that fits over the outside.

http://www.fernco.com.au/uploads/pdfs/AC_DataSheet.pdf?id=1361252715

You should be looking at the Ac4000

 

[mfarrow]

Gas is colourless, but exhibits an odour which is instantly recognisable.

Asbestos fibres exhibit nothing - what you see as dust is not all the asbestos, as the individual fibres are invisible to the naked eye and are easily spread by the wind. They get into your lungs, and stay there.

That is what makes them so dangerous, and why you must be absolutely sure when to take the mask off, and how to control the contamination.

 

[Biggles..]

DIA surely if the pipe has no strength you would be better cutting it flush at floor level and using a DC1 rather than trying to clamp something to the outside increasing the risk of actually crushing and fracturing the pipe?

 

[doitall]

DIA surely if the pipe has no strength you would be better cutting it flush at floor level and using a DC1 rather than trying to clamp something to the outside increasing the risk of actually crushing and fracturing the pipe?

Yes Lee or better still going back to the drain pipe underground.

Howevery if you must its much harder the crush it than explode it from the inside.

 

[mudassar1]

Is there a way of telling the difference between Asbestos and Asbestos Cement Sheets, simply by looking at them? asbestos cement I may be wrong, but my understanding that one is much more dangerous than the other.[/url]

 

[jeff the gasman]

This site is great if an Op asks how to repair a gas appliance they get all the Gas police jumping in and saying you cant do it unless you are Gas safe registered yet you can get advice freely on how to disturb asbestos which is far more dangerous but the good thing is you wont die immediately it could take up to 30 years before you die from what you have been advised to do

Gas kills people instantly with the correct amount of air.
A bit slower with the incorrect amount.