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moonman999

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:31 pm Reply with quote

If the tiles are past their sell by date, they are worth nowt, if they are not then why re-roof in the first place. 75% are probably porous and breaking away at the back. Should you not look at coating them icon_rolleyes.gif
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HaydnExport

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:40 pm Reply with quote

joe-90 wrote:
But you don't even have a little knowledge or you wouldn't think that all tiles are nailed with large clouts. Maybe the OP will come back and let us know how he got on. Why this thread hasn't been locked I'll never know.


And where did i say that ALL tiles were nailed? I said Most roofs were , and gave my opinion on how many would be wasted. Seeing as everyone else agrees with the wast and usability of the salvage , I think you should invest in a pair of reading glasses so you can accurately give your 'little knowledge'.

Why should this thread be locked ? The OP is getting valuable info from everyone but you.
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emark

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:34 pm Reply with quote

Job has now started, we have agreed the roofer can keep all the salvaged tiles and in return he is doing some other work for me.
Everybody is happy.
Cheers everyone for your thought provoking input.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:42 pm Reply with quote

HaydnExport wrote:


And where did i say that ALL tiles were nailed? I said Most roofs were


Yeah but they aren't. They are fastened every fifth row - not nearly every tile. Never mind, the OP has done a deal that he is happy with so they MUST have had a value after all. icon_wink.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:43 pm Reply with quote

emark wrote:
Job has now started, we have agreed the roofer can keep all the salvaged tiles and in return he is doing some other work for me.
Everybody is happy.
Cheers everyone for your thought provoking input.


Well done. The fact he wanted them proves they have a value - which is what I've been saying all along. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:43 pm Reply with quote

joe-90 wrote:
HaydnExport wrote:


And where did i say that ALL tiles were nailed? I said Most roofs were


Yeah but they aren't. They are fastened every fifth row - not nearly every tile. Never mind, the OP has done a deal that he is happy with so they MUST have had a value after all. icon_wink.gif


I said most roofs were nailed using big clouts, didn't say every tile or even every second tile, learn to read before trying to be a smart a**e.

Fair play to the Op in getting the roofer to do some extra work for the salvage (there will be much more now it's 'His) , i would have skipped the lot, not worth the bother and handball for a couple of 100 .
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:34 pm Reply with quote

HaydnExport wrote:
joe-90 wrote:
HaydnExport wrote:


And where did i say that ALL tiles were nailed? I said Most roofs were


Yeah but they aren't. They are fastened every fifth row - not nearly every tile. Never mind, the OP has done a deal that he is happy with so they MUST have had a value after all. icon_wink.gif


I said most roofs were nailed using big clouts, didn't say every tile or even every second tile, learn to read before trying to be a smart a**e.

Fair play to the Op in getting the roofer to do some extra work for the salvage (there will be much more now it's 'His) , i would have skipped the lot, not worth the bother and handball for a couple of 100 .



Well if they weren't nailed - then they simply lift off like I said they did. Stop digging mate and make us all a cuppa. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif
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cyclonebri2

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:20 pm Reply with quote

As an outsider, just having the kids new house reroofed. Price agreed for retiling. No mention of salvage. Asked for tiles to be removed with care. All agreed with builder. .12p per tile for reclaimed rosemaries in our area.

Regarding being past sell by date, of cause they are, they don't call them biscuit tiles for nothing, but some folks will pay well for the old distressed look icon_wink.gif
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TRUSTME

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:32 pm Reply with quote

When I read Joe 90 posts I was flabbergasted at his remarks. Joe if you read this please accept if a client treat us in the way you think he should we will down tools and sue for Breach of Contract, delay, unreasonable behavior, loss of profits and for Uncle Tom Cobbly and All. The client is not king, the client is not the builder or roofer and relies on our skills, judgement and honesty and fairness. But, getting legal [with him] we can sign him up to a contract which includes good news, bad new and covers unforseen risks. losses, costs and 101 eventualities.

If the client 'works himself', and 1 in 15 do so, then I/we will repay him / her fire with fire. To be frank your attitude to our standing as craftsmen is so unprofessional that in my eyes you've turned yourself into a laughing stock. The work we do is stressful and the last thing we want is sour grapes from any client. When a client penny-pinches over salvage old tiles - then you can rest assured they've had 4 quotes, almost certainly went for the best price, got it and now they want the scrap bones and left overs. An earlier poster said in frisk let him take the tiles down himself, but what happens if the silly sod falls off the roof? he will sue the roofer for neglect, for allowing him to do a job he was not qualified to do and proof off this the roofer allowed the client to use his scaffolding! This would be a case brought via his Insurers, so your looking at a 3 year legal bill, lots of hassle, and maybe front page bad press publicty for you and your firm. Keep the client off the roof and away from the job if any sort of danger is involved. Most builders are more honest than the clients they deal with and that's a fact.
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cyclonebri1

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:58 am Reply with quote

The post is 2 1/2 years old fella, best to start a new 1 to be honest.
But since I'm here I have to agree in escence with what you are saying apart from the last bit.
To believe the majority of builders are more honest than the client is fine, but that does mean that a near 50/50 of them may be dodgy.

The client as (you put it), asks a price for a job and agrees it with someone, there is no further room for dishonesty on the customers part if you exclude paying the bill.

On the other hand there are a large number of builders, and I apologuise to the many genuine chaps that frequent here, that will cut any corner they can to increase profit. It's the opportunity to do this that dilutes what the customer recieves. That is dishonest.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:07 am Reply with quote

" The roofing game is full of P ike ys " Who said that icon_mrgreen.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:09 am Reply with quote

TRUSTME wrote:
When I read Joe 90 posts I was flabbergasted at his remarks. and that's a fact.
Most people are ; but we love him here icon_razz.gif
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