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InTheBeginning2007

Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 90 Location: Bedfordshire, United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:19 pm |
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I am installing a a new boiler and the CORGI guy who will comission it, wants me to run the gas pipe too. He will solder joints, but I have to do the rest of the pipe work.
Are there any rules about securing 22mm copper gas pipes.
i.e type of clips to use, spacing of clips etc.
Thanks. |
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giblets

Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 2720 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom Thanked: 234 times
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:25 pm |
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If you ask your CORGI man he will be able to give you all the required details. |
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gas4you

Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 16904 Location: Norfolk, United Kingdom Thanked: 494 times
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:34 pm |
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Yes |
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Trundles Tricks

Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 71 Location: Cardiff, United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:43 pm |
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I've never really understood why people quote rules and regulations as regards distances between clipping pipe.
If you think a pipe needs a clip at a certain point in the run to make it secure clip it!!
If that means 4 clips inside a 1 metre run then so be it..if it needs less then also so be it, the point is...is it secure or not?
It really doesn't get any more complicated than that. |
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ChrisR

Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Posts: 23083 Location: London, United Kingdom Thanked: 936 times
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:29 pm |
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| Quote: | | If you think a pipe needs a clip at a certain point |
But too many plumbers think you can support 6m of pipe on a couple of nails, so the minima are important! |
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Terrywookfit

Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 1807 Location: Antarctica Thanked: 136 times
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:32 pm |
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| ChrisR wrote: | | Quote: | | If you think a pipe needs a clip at a certain point |
But too many plumbers think you can support 6m of pipe on a couple of nails, so the minima are important! |
How many nails are required on a 6m length??  |
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Corgigrouch

Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 2494 Location: United Kingdom Thanked: 172 times
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:41 pm |
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Is this a trick question?
One each end of course.. Unless you are economising.. |
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leakydave

Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 530 Location: Gloucestershire, United Kingdom Thanked: 33 times
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:45 pm |
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surely 4" nails through the gas pipe would make it far more secure and unlikely to fall off nails when simply placed on them!!! |
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kev_1911

Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 108 Location: Manchester, United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:51 pm |
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i've switched to self tappers now as i am sick of bashing mi thumbs !
and be sure to leave the head proud so you have somwhere to hang your manometer............. |
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InTheBeginning2007

Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 90 Location: Bedfordshire, United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:03 pm |
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Giblets and gas4you - why do you bother posting an answer like that.
Of course I would ask him - if I could. However he is on holiday at the moment and is intending to do my job as soon as he gets back, hence me needing to know the actual answer as I have some time to do the work this weekend.
Thanks to the other posters. Even though your replies are not very helpful, they are at least entertaining. |
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gas4you

Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 16904 Location: Norfolk, United Kingdom Thanked: 494 times
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blondini

Joined: 27 Nov 2005 Posts: 1019 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:00 pm |
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TicklyT

Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 3479 Location: Hampshire, United Kingdom Thanked: 335 times
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:17 am |
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That link quotes a maximum joist notching depth of D/6, but building regs recommend a maximum notching depth of D/8. |
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ChrisR

Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Posts: 23083 Location: London, United Kingdom Thanked: 936 times
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:44 am |
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THe Copper Development Association is there to sell copper, not tell you how to do gas work.
Their paper is WRONG AND INCOMPLETE. DO NOT FOLLOW IT.
There is more to installing gas pipework than spacing the clips. You have to know all there is otherwise you'll get something wrong.
You don't know all the rules therefore you aren't competent therefore it's illegal for you to install pipework to be used for gas. |
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giblets

Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 2720 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom Thanked: 234 times
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:54 am |
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| Quote: | Giblets and gas4you - why do you bother posting an answer like that.
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Call me cynical if you like but your original post smacks of a DIY install. No truely professional ŁORGI installer would agree to the customer hanging the boiler let alone running the gas pipework and then sign it off as his own work.  |
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