which new boiler?

offy · 6 Sep 2010

hi, been hanging around for a while now, hoping to get some info on an old bolier we have, seems its well out of date/service so we are looking to have a new one installed.

the existing boiler is a thorn/emi apollo fanfare, and i believe it is now about 20+ years old.

we are wondering as to what type of boiler we should be going for, it all seems a bit confusing and we dont really have anymore than around £1800 to get it supplied and fitted.

we are in a 3 bedroom house, and we have an immersion tank, which supplies our hot water, so i assume that we dont need a combi? there is an existing working pump, and 3 way switch and timer (not digital).

should we be thinking about replacing these as well?

a friend has suggested we look at ferroli a rated condensing boilers, has anybody else got one of these that could let us know what they think?

thanks

penfold46 · 6 Sep 2010

offy said:
a friend has suggested we look at ferroli a rated condensing boilers, has anybody else got one of these that could let us know what they think?

thanks

Not wise to install a Ferroli IMO.

onlyfitidealboilers · 6 Sep 2010

Sure he was a friend???

JohnD · 6 Sep 2010

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jackpike · 6 Sep 2010

for £1800 you could get a really good combi, you seem confused about combi's by saying you don't need one, a 3 bed house is perfect for a comb', it will deliver hot water as long as you need it, so everyone in the house can wash/bath/do dishes/clean cloths without waiting for the for it to heat up. then there's the saving from a combi, you won't be heating a cylinder full of water every day and allowing it to cool down if nobody wants hot water, like in summer, another benefit is you gain room because the cylinder can come out and the tanks in the attic can come out, a combi is a win win situation, get some quotes from 3 local plumbers, NOT B.G, they will advice and quote,

D_Hailsham · 7 Sep 2010

offy said:
hi, been hanging around for a while now, hoping to get some info on an old bolier we have, seems its well out of date/service so we are looking to have a new one installed.

The existing boiler is a thorn/emi apollo fanfare, and i believe it is now about 20+ years old.

Has the Apollo Fanfare stopped working? If not, wait until it does before forking out up to £2k for a new boiler.

Changing a boiler just because it is "old" and a new one will be more efficient is not a good idea as the saving you make will not cover the cost of the new boiler.

Whitespirit66 · 7 Sep 2010

offy said:
a friend has suggested we look at ferroli a rated condensing boilers, has anybody else got one of these that could let us know what they think?

With friends like these, who needs enemies!

Think they're dodgy Italian or Spanish kit.

Whitespirit66 · 7 Sep 2010

jackpike said:
for £1800 you could get a really good combi, you seem confused about combi's by saying you don't need one, a 3 bed house is perfect for a comb', it will deliver hot water as long as you need it, so everyone in the house can wash/bath/do dishes/clean cloths without waiting for the for it to heat up. then there's the saving from a combi, you won't be heating a cylinder full of water every day and allowing it to cool down if nobody wants hot water, like in summer, another benefit is you gain room because the cylinder can come out and the tanks in the attic can come out, a combi is a win win situation, get some quotes from 3 local plumbers, NOT B.G, they will advice and quote,

Depends on where they live. If they're in London, or the South East/West 1800 quid ain't going to get them a quality combi fitted, plus conversion of old system, plus new 22mm gas pipe, plus this, plus that and plus the other.

offy · 7 Sep 2010

lol ok, i see there are some lovers of ferroli here..!!

as for where we live, we live in north devon, and the old myson has stopped working, in fact it stopped last year...!!! and we are not heating the house with plug in heaters again, still paying off the old bill

seems i am to stay away from ferrolis, and i might-might not be able to get a combi?

am having a read through a few other threads about what makes are worth having installed.

we (well my partner!!) likes the idea of losing the immersion, as this would make a lot more room for the washing in the cupboard...!!

and had not considered anything like that,, although the (possible) cost increaes are a bit of a worry, as i said we need to get something sorted before the cold weather gets here.

Biguns · 7 Sep 2010

Do you know what is wrong with the Myson. Have you had a quote to fix it
//www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=211583
//www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=214924&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

D_Hailsham · 8 Sep 2010

offy said:
the old myson has stopped working, in fact it stopped last year

Why did you leave it a year?? If it can be fixed, do that; if it can't, change it.

we (well my partner!!) likes the idea of losing the immersion, as this would make a lot more room for the washing in the cupboard...!!

You loose the airing cupboard and you will have no alternative source of hot water (immersion heater) when the boiler goes wrong - which it will do.

macfudd · 8 Sep 2010

If you`re on a limited budget,replace like for like.Get a new System boiler (not a combi)make sure to get one that can be tank fed.Get the plumber to put a cleanser then inhibitor in the system.This should be the cheapest option with the least upheaval.

Paul Barker · 8 Sep 2010

offy said:
a friend has suggested we look at ferroli a rated condensing boilers, has anybody else got one of these that could let us know what they think?

thanks

They look nasty inside to those in the know, and the story is that they turn down the so called 5 yr guarantee on a whim, plus their call out time (and you will definately need them) is weeks rather than days even within weeks of installation.

I have fitted 3 to my shame, two leaked one made noises but customer sold house, the two leakers I fixed one as customer was a m8 in building trade and he was sick of waiting in, the other one turned out to need an entirely new primary heat exchanger.

~I'll never fit another. Only reason I did these was because they were (all 3) for the guy in the trade including his own. He sourced the boilers. I told him not to buy any more. He was attracted by the supposed 5 year guarantee.

You will find out that us independents are finding some manufacturers blaming us and refusing guarantree work unrighteously. We shall have to stop fitting their stuff.

mrgas · 8 Sep 2010

jackpike said:
a 3 bed house is perfect for a comb',
,

Cant agree with that.
Stored hot water properly lagged and controlled is far more economical on both water and gas.

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