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Are the border force and the RNLI losing their touch?

MNW67 said:
The ones who are currently found to be facing torture and/or execution when we process their claims.

The reason that Reform are planning to leave the international convention against torture is so that they can return people to their home country to be tortured.
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How do we know they are facing execution or torture.
 
Notch7 said:
Would the RNLI rescue you?
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If they are not too busy, but it's my fault if I drown and that is the point you were trying to argue.

You aren't drowning people who choose to put themselves in danger.
You also have to consider that until the illegals changed tactics, most were escorted by French coastguard, who are perfectly capable of rescuing them if the RNLI or border force don't attend.
 
MNW67 said:
Would you return those who will be tortured and/or executed.
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On average, on a per country basis, around 12% of boat immigrants are women and small children. From many countries, the figure is under 1%. Are you not concerned about the thousands of women and infants and babies left behind by their menfolk to suffer this alleged torture and death? Not just wives, but sisters and mothers and grandmothers?

Do you never wonder at the nature of men who would willingly abandon their women and children in such a dangerous country? Would you do it

Would it be fair to categorise such men as disgusting, immoral cowards? If not, why?
 
MNW67 said:
At the moment, when we assess their asylum claims, if somebody claims they are facing torture or execution, we investigate to see if that is true.
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Most are liars, and the lefty lawyers tell them just what to say and what not to
 
Si_ said:
On average, on a per country basis, around 12% of boat immigrants are women and small children. From many countries, the figure is under 1%. Are you not concerned about the thousands of women and infants and babies left behind by their menfolk to suffer this alleged torture and death? Not just wives, but sisters and mothers and grandmothers?

Do you never wonder at the nature of men who would willingly abandon their women and children in such a dangerous country? Would you do it

Would it be fair to categorise such men as disgusting, immoral cowards? If not, why?
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A point utterly unrelated to the question I asked :LOL::LOL:
 
Do we have any figures for reasons those granted asylum were granted it
 
yorksbuilder said:
If they were true asylum seekers they would apply long before, in France or another country they have passed through.
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Sorry, that's the problem if they want to come here, they can only apply when in the UK, that's the rules.
 
Si_ said:
Do you never wonder at the nature of men who would willingly abandon their women and children in such a dangerous country?
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Sorry, that isn't quite right. How many are married with families?
 
aveatry said:
How do we know they are facing execution or torture.
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We don't until we process them.

Do you agree faster processing and action is part of what's needed, or do you agree with sending them to where they may face execution or torture without any investigation?
 
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