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Are the border force and the RNLI losing their touch?

Notch7 said:
Where you live it’s 100% white
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Be careful you dont get banned again ;)

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carmanmemoranda said:
Hopefully the Government is recording those arriving by non clandestine means (the rnli finding them helps in this reagard).

Now whether the previous government had a system in place that could use this information, or even whether the current 1 yet has is a different question. Let's hope they are getting some sort of system in place. if not, they are failing us.

But let's not pretend clandestine and rnli pick ups are the same thing, they clearly are not
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So they are "Clandestine" Illegal Migrants while on the dinghies but when the RNLI and the Border Control boats pick them up they immediately become what exactly that clearly doesn't make them not the same thing ? That is just semantic
carmanmemoranda said:
Great rant again

But, how to stop them? Which is what I asked what your thoughts on.

Towing them back? Stop all benefits?

You do understand legal requirements?
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The legal requirements are set by the ECHR which we need to leave because we are no longer part of the EU (ECHR are more interested in the right of the criminal than the rights of the victim, just as our Government have stated "the rights of the Illegal Migrants are more important than the Locals") we can leave the ECHR at any time and we could even set up our own Human Rights Bill but it should put the Rights of Victims before that of Criminals. Do you not understand that the rights of British Citizens are more important than the rights of Migrants, especially Illegal Migrants of whom we have no knowledge of who or what they are ? Laws are meant to safeguard and represent the Innocent not create loop holes for criminals and whether you like it or not Illegal Migrants are Criminals because they have entered the Country Illegally without Identity Paperwork or Passports and if they are quite happy to commit that crime what other crimes are the comfortable with committing ? It is time that you took a reality check and actually see what is happening around you and the thing that the Government, the Forces that they Command and the Sections of Media that the control are trying to hide or misappropriate. I personally cannot abide Tommy Robinson or a lot of what he has done and has stood for, but for the Police, News and Media to say that the Unite The Kingdom March, Protest or whatever you want to call it attracted a crowd of between 30,000 and 100,000 dependant upon BBC, Sky News, different Police Reports and Newspaper Reports those figures are utter bunkum, look at the aerial videos taken, the crowd were solid in the street across several miles, I have been in 100,000+ crowds at Football Cup Finals in the UK and Europe and they were miniscule in comparison, but huge crowds particularly when they included a cross section of the nationalities of this country do not fit their rhetoric and so lies are broadcast and written.
 
rds60h said:
The legal requirements are set by the ECHR which we need to leave because we are no longer part of the EU (ECHR are more interested in the right of the criminal than the rights of the victim, just as our Government have stated "the rights of the Illegal Migrants are more important than the Locals") we can leave the ECHR at any time and we could even set up our own Human Rights Bill but it should put the Rights of Victims before that of Criminals. Do you not understand that the rights of British Citizens are more important than the rights of Migrants, especially Illegal Migrants of whom we have no knowledge of who or what they are ? Laws are meant to safeguard and represent the Innocent not create loop holes for criminals and whether you like it or not Illegal Migrants are Criminals because they have entered the Country Illegally without Identity Paperwork or Passports and if they are quite happy to commit that crime what other crimes are the comfortable with committing ? It is time that you took a reality check and actually see what is happening around you and the thing that the Government, the Forces that they Command and the Sections of Media that the control are trying to hide or misappropriate. I personally cannot abide Tommy Robinson or a lot of what he has done and has stood for, but for the Police, News and Media to say that the Unite The Kingdom March, Protest or whatever you want to call it attracted a crowd of between 30,000 and 100,000 dependant upon BBC, Sky News, different Police Reports and Newspaper Reports those figures are utter bunkum, look at the aerial videos taken, the crowd were solid in the street across several miles, I have been in 100,000+ crowds at Football Cup Finals in the UK and Europe and they were miniscule in comparison, but huge crowds particularly when they included a cross section of the nationalities of this country do not fit their rhetoric and so lies are broadcast and written.
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600 metres
 
rds60h said:
So they are "Clandestine" Illegal Migrants while on the dinghies but when the RNLI and the Border Control boats pick them up they immediately become what exactly that clearly doesn't make them not the same thing ? That is just semantic
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If they apply for asylum, they become asylum seekers, which is a legal status.
 
rds60h said:
we can leave the ECHR at any time
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Not true.



ECHR is built into the Good Friday Agreement and Scottish and Welsh devolved governments

rds60h said:
The legal requirements are set by the ECHR which we need to leave because we are no longer part of the EU
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It’s got fek all to do with EU


rds60h said:
whether you like it or not Illegal Migrants are Criminals because they have entered the Country Illegally
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I suggest you read the refugee convention.
 
Newsflash...Labour, Conservatives and all their followers do not want to stop immigration or to make any deportations! All their plans, schemes and proposals for deportations have never involved making any actual deportations. Nobody ever seems to notice this though.
 
Notch7 said:
but you said: "but the british will pick you up in a few miles"

the people returned would be those picked up



you seem to be confusing yourself


oh so boats cant be tracked at night :ROFLMAO:
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Are you even following this thread?
 
motorbiking said:
Are you even following this thread?
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I’m just trying to make sense of your contradictions



motorbiking said:
“I know it looks cold wet and dangerous, but the british will pick you up in a few miles and the French will be watching you every mile incase you sink.”

Vs

“Yeah we have to go all the way now and at night, to avoid getting caught. Otherwise you might get deported.”
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I am surprised you didn’t know vessels can be tracked at night
 
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