Reform Policies

[Notch7]

But they're more radical in many ways, which is good and much needed.

How are they radical?

Is making fantasy uncosted policies to get people like you to vote for their lies “radical”

 

[Notch7]

Farage 2029 if not sooner.

You are desperate to be made worse off by establishment public schoolboys

 

[Notch7]

it's just inflated house rents, bills and everything else

Caused by decades of right wing policies

 

[Notch7]

It normally takes them a few years to run out of someone else's money

Conservatives:

£100b spaffed up the wall on brexit
£4.3b spaffed up the wall on bogus PPE contracts
£800m spaffed up the wall on Rwanda scheme
£billions spaffed up the wall on asylum hotels
£billions spent on quantitative easing massively increasing debt and raising house prices

Reform councils are wasting money all over the place including giving themselves pay rises

But the Daily Mail told Ivor to believe it’s all down to Labour.

 

[Brigadier]

Socialism - getting others to pay more taxes so you can have what they worked for.

Even you can't afford the hospital in which you were born, the schools in which you were educated, the roads, rail, and airports which you rely on to do your business, the security which means you can confidently carry out your undertakings without fear of kidnap............................


Being born and resident here, you had a massive leg up from those that went before.

The last generation who truly sacrificed themselves to build this country are approaching 100 yrs of age now: everyone who has followed - the boomers - are riding on their coattails, a wealthy middle class through getting cheap houses that have skyrocketed in value making up a significant number.

But you like to think that "it was all your own work"


If I can find it, I'll put up a video - admittedly regarding 'Murca - that puts this in clear terms.

 

[Brigadier]

 

[Odds]

She's a Bad Guy.

 

[motorbiking]

Even you can't afford the hospital in which you were born, the schools in which you were educated, the roads, rail, and airports which you rely on to do your business, the security which means you can confidently carry out your undertakings without fear of kidnap............................

You might want to do a bit of research before stating something so daft.
The UK avg is £18K per citizen and less than £15k for England.

Someone on £70k per year - is paying their way in income tax. With other tax, you could argue that someone on 50-60k might also do the same.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You might want to do a bit of research before stating something so daft.
The UK avg is £18K per citizen and less than £15k for England.

Someone on £70k per year - is paying their way in income tax. With other tax, you could argue that someone on 50-60k might also do the same.

Doesn't pay for a hospital does it

 

[motorbiking]

I'd swap: income of 874K tax of 253k : 29% nominal tax rate - Nice

https://assets.ctfassets.net/lrqh3qmw9nn5/3WKTKBBfcctnrhrXbwlpzk/1c919ad739dc930702d9ee527f5af4ea/Elizabeth-Warren-2024-Tax-Returns.pdf

If she moved to the UK she'd be paying another 140k in tax.

Thanks for making my point.

 

[motorbiking]

Doesn't pay for a hospital does it

how else is it paid for?

 

[Notch7]

Socialism - getting others to pay more taxes so you can have what they worked for.

capitalism: getting people to work for sh1t wages whilst the rich get richer and richer

privatise the profits
socialize the losses



Thames water -private equity ripping people off
Clearsprings Ltd -Tory donor made into a billionaire by asylum hotels
Owen Paterson -got £500,000 from Randox for getting their big covid contracts
Bogus PPE contracts - mates of Tories making money
energy suppliers: making energy most expensive in Europe
train operators: making train travel most expensive in Europe


Brexit: disaster capitalists fill yer boots

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Conservatives:

£100b spaffed up the wall on brexit
£4.3b spaffed up the wall on bogus PPE contracts
£800m spaffed up the wall on Rwanda scheme
£billions spaffed up the wall on asylum hotels
£billions spent on quantitative easing massively increasing debt and raising house prices

Reform councils are wasting money all over the place including giving themselves pay rises

But the Daily Mail told Ivor to believe it’s all down to Labour.

Bla bla bla more of the same. Keep pushing that open door for all you're worth.

I think we probably ALL agree that the previous government was a steaming turd. That's why the British public were so desperate for change they voted in a bunch of neo-commies.

Out of the frying pan and right into the fire.

 

[Notch7]

That is exactly the sort of petty establishment article that Sky and the beeb are peddling. They're really scraping hard to find things to bitch about Reform.

Reform councils are a complete disaster

media dont have to struggle to find criticism of Reform utter incompetence............but the media does not hold Reform to account because the media is 90% owned by billionaires who want Reforms tax cuts for the rich

poor Ivor, easily taken in by Tory 2.0 the sequel

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

It's very simple... if it's a monopoly public service then the state runs it. If it's a competitive marketplace then leave it to private business.

Don't get hung up on private vs public tribalism. Then you end up with the sort of politicians who thought that state ownership of British Leyland was going to work. Or the banks. Or the steelworks. All expensive unproductive disasters.

State-run industries usually get taken over by union mobsters. Which is why Labour tends to go this way, they know it benefits their paymasters.