Trumps attack on Iran - 2026 edition

[transam]

They have countered with a five point plan, and told Trump to shove his long winded demands up his ninny.

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Hmm the source ID of said rejection has not been released

The Iranian leadership is in tatters and fragmented or dead communications are down

Local
Commanders of the rev guards in various districts are sort of doing as they see fit

 

[transam]

It quite clearly wasn't. No credible source says they were.

But maybe you know better than the International Atomic Energy Agency.

IAEA says no evidence Iran is building a nuclear bomb

The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Rafael Grossi, has said there is no evidence that Iran is currently building a nuclear bomb, while warning that unresolved issues surround…

www.middleeastmonitor.com

No doubt about it the mad mullers are / were intent on getting the bomb

 

[IT Minion]

honest party in this war... in the media at least.

The problem is that Trump lies so much that he cannot be trusted, if someone else disagrees then it's only reasonable to assume that Trump is lying.

And when he can't name who he's supposedly negotiating with after being told the person he claimed he was talking to denied it, it's clear that yes, he was making **** up again. does anyone really believe that he was engaged in negotiations at that point?

He gave Iran the chance to be more honest than him. He handed that tiny victory to them.

The real problem isn't that Iran is being seen as the more honest party, the real problem is that, at least that time, they were the more honest party.

 

[IT Minion]

No doubt about it the mad mullers are / were intent on getting the bomb

No doubt in your mind, but that's a pretty iffy place and not really that closely attached to reality.

In the real world they weren't working on it. They probably do see it as the only way to stop the US and Israel attacking them, but they know they'll get hammered if they do try to build one, and to be a fully effective deterrent they'd need a few dozen and they don't have that much material.

 

[Lirefighter]

No doubt in your mind, but that's a pretty iffy place and not really that closely attached to reality.

In the real world they weren't working on it. They probably do see it as the only way to stop the US and Israel attacking them, but they know they'll get hammered if they do try to build one, and to be a fully effective deterrent they'd need a few dozen and they don't have that much material.

There's always hope though, eh!
One day. One day your dream may come true.
Iran nuke Israel.

 

[IT Minion]

There's always hope though, eh!
One day. One day your dream may come true.
Iran nuke Israel.

There is still hope, Trump had an agreement on the table to remove the Iranian enriched Uranium. Maybe someone else can get us back to where we were before he screwed it all up.

Designing a nuclear bomb isn't hard, two random PhD students did that in the 1960s. Machining it is trickier but nothing special with modern tools.

The materials are the only really hard part, and Trump threw away the best chance we've had this century to remove the threat of a nuclear armed Iran. He had a deal on the table to hand them over, then his negotiators walked away and told Trump Iran wasn't going to budge.

I do not see how things can be turned around again but there is still hope that Iran will handover the materials, but everything Trump and Israel does is making it less and less likely.

 

[transam]

No doubt in your mind, but that's a pretty iffy place and not really that closely attached to reality.

In the real world they weren't working on it. They probably do see it as the only way to stop the US and Israel attacking them, but they know they'll get hammered if they do try to build one, and to be a fully effective deterrent they'd need a few dozen and they don't have that much material.

Real world pretty rich coming from you

Reality passed you by years ago and what’s holding your ear apart is decidedly “ iffy” at best

 

[IT Minion]

Real world pretty rich coming from you

Reality passed you by years ago and what’s holding your ear apart is decidedly “ iffy” at best

Im sorry, I missed the part where you quoted the IAEA confirming that Iran was working on a bomb.

Oh, yeah, because they said the opposite.

 

[Highway Man]

Real world pretty rich coming from you

Reality passed you by years ago and what’s holding your ear apart is decidedly “ iffy” at best

 

[Lirefighter]

There is still hope, Trump had an agreement on the table to remove the Iranian enriched Uranium. Maybe someone else can get us back to where we were before he screwed it all up.

Designing a nuclear bomb isn't hard, two random PhD students did that in the 1960s. Machining it is trickier but nothing special with modern tools.

The materials are the only really hard part, and Trump threw away the best chance we've had this century to remove the threat of a nuclear armed Iran. He had a deal on the table to hand them over, then his negotiators walked away and told Trump Iran wasn't going to budge.

I do not see how things can be turned around again but there is still hope that Iran will handover the materials, but everything Trump and Israel does is making it less and less likely.

What material?
I thought you said they weren't working on anything.

 

[Highway Man]

What material?
I thought you said they weren't working on anything.

He doesn't actually know anything, he just jumps from one thing to another mate, he is actually crazy.

 

[IT Minion]

What material?
I thought you said they weren't working on anything.

Uranium. You have to refine the uranium to a high purity to make it able to explode, aka weapons grade. That's thankfully quite hard, time consuming and very obvious. They are not refining it to the last step, if they gave the mostly refined materials away then it would take even longer to get back to where they are now, but Trump threw that chance away.

They'll have the designs sitting on a hard drive somewhere and will have had them for thirty years or more.

 

[Lirefighter]

He doesn't actually know anything, he just jumps from one thing to another mate, he is actually crazy.

I used to believe that people like him were only on the Internet.
There for the grift to make money.
These morons do it for nowt!

 

[Highway Man]

Uranium. You have to refine the uranium to a high purity to make it able to explode, aka weapons grade. That's thankfully quite hard, time consuming and very obvious. They are not refining it to the last step, if they gave the mostly refined materials away then it would take even longer to get back to where they are now, but Trump threw that chance away.

They'll have the designs sitting on a hard drive somewhere and will have had them for thirty years or more.

Refining uranium is not the final stage, enrichment is the final stage for nuclear weapons.

 

[DP]

I think the 'Boots on the ground ' group are probably going to be proven right in the end. The US ground forces are scheduled to be in place by the end of the week, allowing Trump to launch the ground war after the US markets have closed and after his 5 day negotiation deadline.

Then more of the gulfs infrastructure gets hit, the straights remain closed and oil prices go up again

Doubt if that will happen
US troop will be on someone else’s turf. While they may have terrain maps and all that, Iranian militia will be on home turf and they will outnumber the US troops.

One of the channels compared US in Vietnam where they had much much larger force but still came away defeated.

I could be wrong, very wrong but think Trump is going to get his forces killed.