magnetic filter fitted on wrong pipe !

darz456 · 15 Dec 2013

Hi please can you guys give me some more advice i have just had a new boiler fitted under one of the goverment grants however it seems the idiot plumber has fitted me an magnetic filter on the flow pipe out of the boiler rather than the return where i think it should be .

should i complain or just leave it where it is ?

Thanks for advice

Darren

Madrab · 15 Dec 2013

Ideally the filter should be on the return pipe. This is so it can stop any crud entering the boiler, which is really why they are installed.
Putting it is on the flow side isn't strictly wrong, better than not having one at all, but it really defeats one of the main purposes of having it, which is to avoid the boiler from being contaminated.
Difficult one asking for it to be changed, giving it's being grant funded, I'll leave that decision to one of the guys that do these types of funded installs.,

mogget · 15 Dec 2013

It may have been done under the green deal which is not free but paid for through your utility bill.

The OP may be disabled through no fault of their own and unable to work.

I think you are being a bit harsh.

A snap was taken at me for making an assumption and I think some are being made now.

Without a crystal ball we cannot tell whether the OP is a scrounger or genuine.

mogget · 15 Dec 2013

The same reason everybody else on benefits can't find a job - there are more people than jobs. And despite equality laws, employers rountinely discriminate against the disabled, who may not be fit for even limited work day in day out. Multiple sclerosis, lupus, mental health problems, chronic pancreatitis, uncontrollable epilepsy are just a few conditions I can think of that would result in someone being able to use a computer but unable to turn up at work on the days specified. Another reason would be having intensive cancer treatment. I lost my partner to leukaemia earlier this year and for 18 months, more days were spent in hospital than out.

I'm not saying there aren't people out there who scrounge because they make their money elsewhere by drug dealing etc, but these are a completely different group to the genuinely disabled.

mogget · 15 Dec 2013

ianmcd said:
The OP may very well be disabled but why cant they work ? the OP can obviously use a computer and many disabled people are in the work place and if the boiler was installed under the green deal it will be the first one , it was installed under the ECO scheme

My apologies for getting the two schemes confused - I do not need either so have had no need to look into it further than what has been in the news.

Onetap · 15 Dec 2013

darz456 said:
should i complain or just leave it where it is ?

Darren

It goes on the return, to protect the boiler. The boiler is catching crud and protecting the filter. get him back.

It's not your fault he was a dullard. The trade does seem to attract them.

Onetap · 15 Dec 2013

GavThePlumber said:
You are calling the plumber an idiot, ......................

He put a filter on the return? Seems restrained, IMHO.

mogget · 15 Dec 2013

Onetap said:
return?

I think that was a typo.

Onetap · 16 Dec 2013

mogget said:
Onetap said:

return?

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I think that was a typo.

It was; I can't write filter and flow in the same sentence.

GavThePlumber · 16 Dec 2013

Onetap said:
darz456 said:

should i complain or just leave it where it is ?

Darren

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It goes on the return, to protect the boiler. The boiler is catching crud and protecting the filter. get him back.

It's not your fault he was a dullard. The trade does seem to attract them.

It can go anywhere on the main circuit, theoretically, the best position is after the last radiator on the return. Systems can and do manage without these for the whole life of the boiler without any noticeable effects. The boiler in this instance, is not protecting the filter that isn't how it works

You are potentially just causing people grief, you are not in a position to suggest that someone call someone else back due to defective workmanship, as you hold no facts at all about this persons install, for all you know there is no feasible position for it on the return.

GavThePlumber · 16 Dec 2013

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Galoka · 16 Dec 2013

ianmcd said:
The OP may very well be disabled but why cant they work ? the OP can obviously use a computer and many disabled people are in the work place and if the boiler was installed under the green deal it will be the first one , it was installed under the ECO scheme

Not really sure why it was suggested the OP might be disabled or not working, you can be working and still be eligible for ECO Affordable Warmth Scheme.

Being granted funded doesn't exclude the job from being done properly, and presumably you would ask the installer to come back and fix whatever problem there might be. Though putting a Magnaclean on the flow is not wrong as such just not the preferred position. So a bit of a moot point.

mogget · 16 Dec 2013

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GavThePlumber · 16 Dec 2013

Galoka said:
Being granted funded doesn't exclude the job from being done properly, and presumably you would ask the installer to come back and fix whatever problem there might be.

We don't know there is any problem, we only know that the op, may or may not know it is on the flow and not the return, it being perfectly acceptable to put it on the flow regardless.

If we assume it is correctly installed, but the person/company who installed it is called out anyway due to some bad advice on some internet forum, thus wasting time/diesel, the op can be direct billed.

Galoka · 16 Dec 2013

GavThePlumber";p="2971062 said:
Galoka said:

Being granted funded doesn't exclude the job from being done properly, and presumably you would ask the installer to come back and fix whatever problem there might be.

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We don't know there is any problem, we only know that the op, may or may not know it is on the flow and not the return, it being perfectly acceptable to put it on the flow regardless.

No, I was talking in a more general sense.

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