Zion and the Art of Armageddon

ajohn said:
True they don't. The actual figures. While the infrastructure is working they are known to produce accurate figures. It has worked for a long time and is likely to still do so in some areas. However more recently more are likely to be obtained via how many people where thought to be in a house and the number that survived. It's generally accepted that more will be buried under rubble.

How long is a piece of string? Rafar did have 2 battalions of HAMAS fighters in it. Now it seems 4. How big is one of their battalions? Where does the info come from - Israel.

There is an hour long video here about the attack and other aspects. The TV video was a bit different so some of that removed and data added,
www.aljazeera.com

October 7: Forensic analysis shows Hamas abuses, many false Israeli claims

Investigation draws up a list of those killed but also finds certain claims repeated by Israeli politicians untrue.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
12 hostages killed - tanks were used.
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I hadn't realised until I watched that video that a lot of the savages who took Israeli hostages were actually civilians.

Guess that might be why they are fair game then.
 
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THFC said:
I hadn't realised until I watched that video that a lot of the savages who took Israeli hostages were actually civilians.

Guess that might be why they are fair game then.
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Many people living in Gaza do not support Hamas or want to be involved

They just want to live a normal peaceful life like you and I
 
fillyboy said:
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“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he may have accidentally locked himself in the garage.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he may still be upset with you for eating that ham salad sandwich last April.
Is he both able and willing?
Then he may just be delayed for some reason, e.g., stuck in traffic.
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then he may have lost his job due to an industrial accident, such as getting his beard caught in a factory machine.

(Epicurious)
 
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Looks like Israel has significantly stepped up actions in Gaza and transam has become the spokesman for the Iranians.
 
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THFC said:
Guess that might be why they are fair game then.
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In a punishment sense maybe but as the US has pointed out a number of times the techniques Israel use will lead to more civilian deaths.
 
ajohn said:
In a punishment sense maybe but as the US has pointed out a number of times the techniques Israel use will lead to more civilian deaths.
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Yeah, 'cos the Americans have never deliberately killed hundreds of thousands of civilians have they.

Atom bombs on Japan anyone? :rolleyes:
 
THFC said:
I hadn't realised until I watched that video that a lot of the savages who took Israeli hostages were actually civilians.

Guess that might be why they are fair game then.
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There's plenty of people on both sides that don't see the others as fully human or worthy of life.

The biggest difference is in capability. The Palestinian extremists have no heavy weapons and so use terrorism and guerilla warfare. Israel has a highly advanced military so they use airstrikes and creeping ethnic cleansing.
 
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THFC said:
Yeah, 'cos the Americans have never deliberately killed hundreds of thousands of civilians have they.

Atom bombs on Japan anyone? :rolleyes:
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The policy issued by Israel is different in that context: using AI drones to target members of Hamas and killing them no matter how many civilians are in the building. It's the difference between an aimed shot to a random bullet. It's more personal.
 
THFC said:
Atom bombs on Japan anyone?
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Hadn't heard about that attack in recent times when did it happen again?

Actually dropping both nuclear bombs on Japan needed agreement from the UK and Canada. The laws of war cropped up after that anyway.
 
Odds said:
The policy issued by Israel is different in that context: using AI drones to target members of Hamas and killing them no matter how many civilians are in the building. It's the difference between an aimed shot to a random bullet. It's more personal.
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There has also been plenty of use of dumb bombs. Shelling too.
 
Odds said:
The policy issued by Israel is different in that context: using AI drones to target members of Hamas and killing them no matter how many civilians are in the building. It's the difference between an aimed shot to a random bullet. It's more personal.
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It doesn't matter whether they are aimed or random, the result is the same.

Israel's goal is to kill as many of the Hamas savages as they can, however they can. That's it.
 
ajohn said:
Hadn't heard about that attack in recent times when did it happen again?

Actually dropping both nuclear bombs on Japan needed agreement from the UK and Canada. The laws of war cropped up after that anyway.
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It doesn't matter when it happened, only that it did.
 
ajohn said:
Looks like Israel has significantly stepped up actions in Gaza and transam has become the spokesman for the Iranians.
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:cool:

The mad mullahs in charge are probably checking that there personal under ground bomb shelters are up to Snuff and that there personal
Funds are safe in there over seas accounts (?)

Given the potential situation and possible escalation the mad mullahs may need to scale back on thete arms supply to poo tin ???
 
That'd be a very interesting retaliation response. No loss of life so being more restrained and responsible than Israel. Which is not what you expect.

I wonder what's on the boat?
 
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