Zionism Condemned

fillyboy said:

And quite rightly so, those hundred or so violent settlers should be held to account.

I haven't seen anything on the EU declaring Israel a rogue state though, do you have a link for that?

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“Israel cannot continue to behave like a rogue state without consequences,” says Michael McNamara, who signed a letter alongside several members of the European Parliament across a number of political groups to HR/VP Kaja Kallas, the EU’s foreign policy chief which demanded immediate intervention. The letter described the interception as a serious act of aggression by a foreign military power in European waters, hundreds of miles from Gaza, with no legal or security justification. The co-signatories called on Kallas to intervene at the highest diplomatic level, summon the Israeli Head of Mission to the EU, place sanctions on the table, and report urgently to the European Parliament.

Odds said:

“Israel cannot continue to behave like a rogue state without consequences,” says Michael McNamara, who signed a letter alongside several members of the European Parliament across a number of political groups to HR/VP Kaja Kallas, the EU’s foreign policy chief which demanded immediate intervention. The letter described the interception as a serious act of aggression by a foreign military power in European waters, hundreds of miles from Gaza, with no legal or security justification. The co-signatories called on Kallas to intervene at the highest diplomatic level, summon the Israeli Head of Mission to the EU, place sanctions on the table, and report urgently to the European Parliament.

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As I thought, doesn't sound like an official EU declaration to me.

fillyboy said:

As I thought, doesn't sound like an official EU declaration to me.

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It's only a matter of time.

fillyboy said:

Rubbish, the designation was partly for what you describe, but also the destabilisation internationally both directly and via proxies.

The Kings Speech today included legislation to proscribe State based threats, proscribing the IRGC is now formally part of the Govt agenda.


Legislation to proscribe state-based threats – including Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) – has been included in the King’s Speech, making it a formal part of the government’s legislative agenda.

Speaking to both Houses of Parliament, King Charles started his speech by saying: “My government will take urgent action to tackle antisemitism and ensure all communities feel safe”.

He later added: “My government will introduce legislation to tackle the growing threat from foreign state entities and their proxies.”

Maybe you and a few others on here should consider keeping your heads down, eh Himmy?

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Both Iran and IGRC have been accused of war crimes.
As has Israel and IDF.
Yet UK seeks to proscribe only Iran and/or IGRC, not Israel nor iDF. Weird that, don't you think?
Do you think politics has anything to do with it?

King Billy said:

Both Iran and IGRC have been accused of war crimes.
As has Israel and IDF.
Yet UK seeks to proscribe only Iran and/or IGRC, not Israel nor iDF. Weird that, don't you think?
Do you think politics has anything to do with it?

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it is because of the balfour declaration. if you are not already aware of it read into the history of it and what happened with the rothschilds at the time. pair that with the strings that the family pull today and it all becomes clear.
personally, i did not sign that declaration so i will not comply.

SpiderTrev said:

it is because of the balfour declaration. if you are not already aware of it read into the history of it and what happened with the rothschilds at the time. pair that with the strings that the family pull today and it all becomes clear.

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What? You're creating a new conspiracy theory, and you want me to pad it out with nonsense, for you?

Why don't you tell us what you think, or believe or have heard.
That's how discussions work.

King Billy said:

What? You're creating a new conspiracy theory, and you want me to pad it out with nonsense, for you?

Why don't you tell us what you think, or believe or have heard.
That's how discussions work.

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if you want the truth you are going to have to work for it, i can't spell it out for you, you wouldn't believe me anyway.

why do people immediately fall back to conspiracy theory accusations when they read the name "rothschilds"? it's crazy how they manage to hide behind that. some of them hide behind jews too, which is pitiful. if i was jewish i would hate them for that. any criticism of them is immediately called anti-Semitic, like they speak for all jews, which they obviously don't! there are good and bad jews, just as with any other group of people

SpiderTrev said:

if you want the truth you are going to have to work for it, i can't spell it out for you, you wouldn't believe me anyway.

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Do you know what the truth is?
If so, why can't you tell us? Is it some great secret?

SpiderTrev said:

why do people immediately fall back to conspiracy theory accusations when they read the name "rothschilds"?

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Because people say "Rothschilds" as though it's some magic explanation.

SpiderTrev said:

the balfour declaration. ... and what happened with the rothschilds. pair that with the strings that the family pull today and it all becomes clear.

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Assume I've just arrived on earth, and explain to me how the Balfour declaration is connected to the Rothschilds, and what strings you think are being pulled.

SpiderTrev said:

it's crazy how they manage to hide behind that. some of them hide behind jews too, which is pitiful. if i was jewish i would hate them for that. any criticism of them is immediately called anti-Semitic, like they speak for all jews, which they obviously don't! there are good and bad jews, just as with any other group of people

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We're not discussing anti-Semitism, nor Jews, nor any other group of people. We're discussing the Balfour declaration, and some secret connection to the Rothschilds.
Please explain this secret conection.

King Billy said:

Do you know what the truth is?
If so, why can't you tell us? Is it some great secret?


Because people say "Rothschilds" as though it's some magic explanation.

Assume I've just arrived on earth, and explain to me how the Balfour declaration is connected to the Rothschilds, and what strings you think are being pulled.



We're not discussing anti-Semitism, nor Jews, nor any other group of people. We're discussing the Balfour declaration, and some secret connection to the Rothschilds.
Please explain this secret conection.

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it is not a secret. it is out there to be read, just go read it. i'm not going to spend hours writing the history when there are many great articles already out there.
the rothschild family played a big part in the balfour declaration and they are some of the most influential zionists there has ever been. they gained a lot from it. some argue it was in their personal interest, and there are some great arguments supporting that theory. again, i'm not going to go over hours of content here.

you are mistaken about the "magical explanation", i am just calling a spade a spade. isn't it interesting that it works both ways though? you can discard what i said because i mention the rothschild family, as if it's some magic bullet to discredit what i say as conspiracy.

start here, then work your way around the internet. there is a lot more to uncover than the wiki, but it's a good start

the word "rothschild" appears 30 times on that page. that's a lot for a name with no links don't you think?

I do wonder if the Rothchilds or other leading Zionists played a part in Eurovision? 2nd place?, outrageous.

fillyboy said:

I do wonder if the Rothchilds or other leading Zionists played a part in Eurovision? 2nd place?, outrageous.

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that joke went over my head. i don't watch TV, let alone trash like that

It's not really fair to blame the Rothschilds, or any other Jewish owned banking institution since the Medieval Christian edict prevented Catholics from charging interest on loans, leaving Jews to 'do the dirty work'. Although all the Rothschilds money won't prevent support for Israel among young American Conservatives draining away as the war in Gaza continues: This may not bode well for the Christian Zionism movement, experts say.
In March 1992, Christianity Today, a prominent evangelical Christian magazine based in the US, featured a cover story dedicated to Christian Zionism – a theological and political movement that believes all Jews should immigrate to Palestine to trigger the return of Jesus Christ...in the following three decades, Christian Zionism thrived in the Bible Belt. The movement also helped elect George W Bush for two terms and rallied support for his devastating war on Iraq, which was theologically justified by some Christian Zionists as necessary to usher in the rebuilding of Babylon, the second coming of Jesus Christ and the end of times.

More than 30 years later, another publication declared the imminent decline of the movement. In its November 2025 issue, Jacobin, a leftist magazine based in the US, predicted the “end-times for Christian Zionism”.

But despite the dwindling public support, Christian Zionists still have considerable influence over the US power structure due to their substantial financial resources and institutional heft. The lobby arm of Christians United for Israel (CUFI), a Christian Zionist organisation, for example, spent more than $670,000 on lobbying in Washington to strengthen sanctions on Iran, among other issues. CUFI has also worked to secure billions in funding to Israel.

Christian Zionists have used their influence to help stoke the current war on Iran. Prominent Christian leaders praised the Trump administration for launching what they saw as a religious war that could trigger the fulfilment of another biblical prophecy about a war between Israel and “Persia”.