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and as I have said our gripe is about people informing people on a potentially dangerous job you really should keep stum if you cant keep up and if you think I care about a DIYer changing a light switch then you seriously aint listening so please keep your useless un educated jump on the band...

and that mattylad is exactly why you are a DIYer isnt it mate

replacing a broken socket there is stuff on here talking about rewires in shops putting in three phase supplies full new builds etc do you not agree that is a little bit differenet than changing a broken socket and if instead of beng so wrapped up in loving this site you would see why I and...

and a dash of common sense is really not comparable to adequete training by which I mean supervised and knowledge proven by an accepted way qualification another point is if that is your opinion why did you bother becoming an electrician the funniest thing someone said on here was the public...

I have said that it is NOT a good idea to give non competent people advice on a potentially dangerous job from the comfort of your arm chair.You do not know what level of skill or intelligence that person has and they dont know yours.You are assuming[forum key word]it will all work out great

Is it a requirement of this forum to twist peoples words as it seems you have yet again you know exactly what you said I have not insulted anyones intelligence think about what you said and then think about what my point was

pathetic its not just advice on anything is it but it does prove you are losing when you stoop to stupid comments doesnt it

honestly putting pictures of your wife on the forum thats so sweet :lol:

Now that was funny :lol: :lol: :lol:

I work when I choose guess I am lucky but thanks for asking

Davy--owen so basically 230 is safe then for someone who is giving advice to non competent people on a DIY forum that was an incredably stupid thing to say dont you agree.Have you met everyone you have given advice to.Not to mention the fact that you have just insulted an entire trade do you...

Cant seem to see where it says if you dont know ask someone you dont know never met wont take responsibility cant prove there knowledge wont check the work in the flesh and could be anywhere on a web forum do you

Cant seem to find any NAPIT ECA JIB OR GOVERNMENT body backing your site thats odd

It is far better to leave it to a competent person and not give out how to do lists to people who are not you also know the answer

You still talkng about electricy which tends to kill things and burn things :?:

and you are an idiot if you seriously dont believe that giving advice to someone who is not competent on a what could be dangerous job has no possibility of in dangering him self or others esp if the advice they are given is from someone who is not willing to prove there knowledge and take the...

and the reason it has become this is because none of you are hearing what is being said you are reading what you lik and trying very miserabally to avoid issues

The only way that argument works is if you are sure they wont follow that advice the fact is that if someone who is not competent asks for advice and you give it they will HAVE AGO and if it goes wrong dont you think you should take the responsibilty

AND NO TEACHING SOMEONE PHYSICALLY THAT YOU CAN KEEP AN EYE ON AND WATCH OR BE WATCHED OVER AND IS TESTED IS NOT WRONG GIVING SOMEONE A HOW TO DO LIST AND LIVING ON THE HOPE THAT THEY WILL BE ALRIGHT IS WRONG WOULD YOU TEACH SOMEONE TO SHOOT A GUN ON A FORUM